From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 2 12: 8:10 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D88B737B401; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 12:08:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from [204.213.64.2] (firewall.tiadon.com [204.213.64.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8030E43F93; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 12:08:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from rmc.tiadon.com by [204.213.64.2] via smtpd (for mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) with ESMTP; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 14:08:04 -0600 Received: from applications.tiadon.com (mail.tiadon.com [172.16.18.172]) by bcec01.tiadon.net with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id DKVJ1Q9D; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 14:08:03 -0600 Received: from firewall.tiadon.com ([204.213.65.87]) by applications.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Sun, 2 Mar 2003 14:08:05 -0600 Received: from [204.213.65.87] by firewall.tiadon.com via smtpd (for mail.tiadon.com [172.16.18.172]) with ESMTP; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 14:08:01 -0600 Message-ID: <006f01c2e0f6$c2ef6240$0100a8c0@DaleCoportable> Reply-To: "Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." From: "Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." To: "Giorgos Keramidas" Cc: References: <010301c2e070$25864270$0100a8c0@DaleCoportable> <011d01c2e071$b1b6aae0$0100a8c0@DaleCoportable> <20030302180350.GB52652@gothmog.gr> Subject: Re: RFC 1912 compliant ISP's... Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 14:03:12 -0600 Organization: DaleCo, S.P.---"the solutions people" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: "Giorgos Keramidas" To: "Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." Cc: Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 12:03 PM Subject: Re: RFC 1912 compliant ISP's... > [ Top posting 'fixed'. ] > Thanks. Been talking to too many MS types lately... but in this context it shouldn't have been up there.. > On 2003-03-01 22:10, "Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." wrote: > > "Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." wrote: > > > Hi, mostly I'm just testing > > > my ISP's smtp service(s). > > > > > > The name they give out for users to use as the outgoing MTA is not > > > listed in the reverse zone, so I can't post to wonderful servers > > > like those @freebsd.org. > > > > > > Anybody else got service this wonderful :) > > > > And, since it worked I'll pat myself on the back for my ingenuity, > > and slap myself on the wrist for forgetting that there's a test@ > > list for just such a purpose. Apologies. > > > > Anyone from SouthWest Missouri who uses my ISP, I'll let you in on > > the secret... > > It's not really a secret. Besides, why not mail it to the list > anyway? This way someone who has similar problems in the future > will find the answer in the list archives :-P > > You shouldn't set up your mta to forward mail directly to their > destination when you're behind an ISP, but relay all your messages > through the ISP's mail gateway using Sendmail's SMART_HOST feature. > > - Giorgos Great idea, except this was off a laptop running a M$ product. I'm working on a home office, and will have a FBSD server there someday, so then that will be what I need to do. But first, build the floor, install carpet, insulate walls... The real issue was simply that the ISP is telling us "use Server X" when "Server Y" is actually listed in their MX records. So, the 'big secret' is...don't trust tiadon.com, just use "mail" instead of "smtp"... (and yes, everyone I know that uses them has that name in their config....) I was just tired of dealing with the simpletons... passwords can only be LC alpha and numerals, wrong MTA name in documentation, haven't answered my email in 3 days (not even an auto- responder...??) . And, I just signed up two weeks ago... I'm starting to feel like I'm the only one in the surrounding 3 counties that would know how to do it right....too bad I have no brain for business, 'cause otherwise I could run an ISP better than them, methinks.....I guess I'm just spoiled by the amazing amount of technical know-how around these lists....... Kevin Kinsey To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message