Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 16:08:26 +0100 From: Andre Oppermann <andre@freebsd.org> To: Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be> Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: My planned work on networking stack Message-ID: <4044A36A.64E885BE@freebsd.org> References: <4043B6BA.B847F081@freebsd.org> <200403011507.52238.wes@softweyr.com> <20040302031625.GA4061@scylla.towardex.com> <20040302042957.GH3841@saboteur.dek.spc.org> <20040302082625.GE22985@cell.sick.ru> <p0600200ebc6a27773c31@[10.0.1.3]><p06002014bc6a36fcdf29@[10.0.1.3]>
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Brad Knowles wrote: > > At 3:59 PM +0300 2004/03/02, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > > > Haven't you understand? I'm the "person who has real-world experience > > in running zebra in ISP environments with multiple upstreams and taking > > full views". > > IIRC, he's also got some pretty big cisco equipment (75xx or > whatever), and he is going to be switching over to OpenBSD+bgpd as > his secondary core router in the very near future, with plans to > complete the switch over soon thereafter. He's putting his money > where his mouth is. Gleb is doing the same, and so am I. However you are not. Do you run BGP in your network? > Certainly, I have noticed that zebra hasn't done much recently, > and at least on the surface quagga doesn't seem to have gone that far > beyond where zebra was a couple of years ago. At least for me on FreeBSD Zebra has been very stable for me. There is no need to always "change" things. > > Browse zebra CVS to make sure that author is commiting bugfixes. > > For example: last commit to BGP code is done 2 weeks ago. > > Right, and that bugfix took how long to apply? When was the > previous bugfix before that? When was the last real "new" > development for zebra? What is you point? Do you use Zebra? Are you affected by it? Or are you just ranting? > > I stop replying... Do not like flame. > > Before flaming anyone further, you might want to check out pages > like <http://www.fosdem.org/2004/index/interviews/interviews_brauer>, > and then take a look and see what Henning Brauer has actually been up > to. And you should stop flaming anyone if you haven't ever used or done what you are blabbering about. > You might also want to check out > <http://www.commsdesign.com/design_corner/OEG20010323S0048>; and ask > yourself if zebra/quagga handles resiliency the way it should. If > this problem isn't already addressed by bgpd, I'm sure it will be > before Henning can go production with using this for his core routers > at his ISP. Sorry, but OpenBSDs bgpd wont to any of that either. This is mostly hardware that needs to be redundant. Not much you can in bgpd. -- Andre
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