From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 19 22:45:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C6F516A420 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:45:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C5F13C455 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:45:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id lBJMj5JW096477; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:45:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:46:07 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Cc: Rob , FreeBSD Chat , Andrew Falanga Subject: RE: Suggestions please for what POP or IMAP servers to use X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:45:07 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: David Schwartz [mailto:davids@webmaster.com] > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 8:35 AM > To: tedm@toybox.placo.com > Cc: Rob; FreeBSD Chat; Andrew Falanga > Subject: RE: Suggestions please for what POP or IMAP servers to use > > > When we talk about a corporation being motivated by fear, we know that a > corporation is not a human being and has no feelings. It can't actually be > afraid of anything. > > However, tons of evidence from that time period suggests that Microsoft > feared Oh brother. > > This would require a kind of foresight on Gates' part that he > simply didn't > have. > > It really doesn't matter whether Bill Gates genuinely feared that the > Internet First it was "Microsoft feared" Now it's "Bill Gates feared" > could topple his OS monopoly by making OS unimportant or > if he was > just covering his bases. The fact is, he acted to leverage his Windows > monopoly to kill IE Now your just so carried away that you aren't even paying attention to what your writing. "leverage windows to kill IE?" > > You may find some evidence to suggest that Microsoft thought that the > browser might be a way to control other markets. For example, if your > browser defaults to your portal, then your book selling site might have an > advantage over a competitor's. It's quite possible that this also > motivated > Microsoft to think winning the browser wars was important. > > There is just no evidence that root key issues had any role in the browser > wars. Ted insists they did against all evidence. > The root key issue that your so hung up on was a single example cited by me in a response to Chuck Robey's statement that Microsoft is "giving away" IE. Go back and re-read it. Notice that I DID NOT say in that post that this was the ONLY way that Microsoft makes money of IE. It is you that has somehow jumped to the conclusion that I was asserting this is the ONLY way Microsoft makes money off IE. There's plenty other ways. Ted