From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 21 17:26:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB08137B406 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 17:26:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from janeway.vonbek.dhs.org (bgm-24-24-79-198.stny.rr.com [24.24.79.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D8A143E77 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 17:26:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from syborg@stny.rr.com) Received: by janeway.vonbek.dhs.org (Postfix, from userid 507) id 743934FA51; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 20:23:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by janeway.vonbek.dhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EE974A0D for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 20:23:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 20:23:30 -0400 (EDT) From: John Bleichert X-X-Sender: syborg@janeway.vonbek.dhs.org Reply-To: John Bleichert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on a Mac In-Reply-To: <1029957422.17756.59.camel@markx.vladsempire.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 21 Aug 2002, Josh Paetzel wrote: > Date: 21 Aug 2002 19:17:01 +0000 > From: Josh Paetzel > On Thu, 2002-08-22 at 00:11, John Bleichert wrote: > > On 21 Aug 2002, Josh Paetzel wrote: > > > From: Josh Paetzel > > > > > On Wed, 2002-08-21 at 23:45, David Kelly wrote: > > > > On Wednesday 21 August 2002 04:17 pm, Derrick MacPherson wrote: > > > > > > If there is any feature I'd like for FreeBSD to have is Apple's > > > > > > Aqua. > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, it's a nice interface, I find it gets more annoying after time > > > > > though. To be honest, my fave interface to any unix I have used so > > > > > far is 4Dwm from SGI. There was a few attempts at creating Aqua for > > > > > Linux, but Apple asked them to stop working on it. Short sighted I > > > > > would think, but what else is new? > > > > > > > > I too miss the simple and clean 4Dwm. > > > > > > > > But its not just the look of Aqua I desire for FreeBSD, but the whole > > > > shooting match behind it. If FreeBSD had that then all MacOS X > > > > applications should be as easy or easier to port to FreeBSD than Linux > > > > apps are today. > > > > > > > > And Apple would have a state of the art x86 platform. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net > > > > > > A stste of the art i386 platform would be the death knell of apple. > > > They are a hardware company. If suddenly all they had to sell was OSX > > > and the other 3 apps they make that no one uses where does that leave > > > them? > > > > > > Apple is a lot like Sun, or SGI, or to stretch the analogy a tad > > > Compaq/HP. When you buy their systems you are buying a turn-key > > > solution. They (sometimes) designed the hardware, they wrote the OS, > > > they wrote the drivers, and there's on number on the back of the > > > handbook you call when something gets fux0red. > > > > > > I'm not claiming to have the end-all authoritative opinion on this, but > > > apple WOULD have to do some radical shifting around of their operation > > > if they were going to do OSX on i386, and I just don't see that shifting > > > around happening. > > > > > > Josh > > > > > > > The reason we got a PowerMac was for the tightly integrated hardware/opsys > > design. It's very cool, and I'm a PPC fan anyway. I like Aqua for it's > > polish and visual appeal, but I like XFree86 for it's ridiculous, arcane > > configurability and speed. > > > > I would rather have OSX on PowerPC hardware and nice, clean, quick FreeBSD > > on my Athlon. > > > > But Mr. Kelly's comment about "a state of the art x86 platform" still > > stands. > > > > JB > > > > Right, which goes back to Apple can't control the hardware anymore, and > they are forced to compete pricewise with Dastardly Dan's House of > Clones. Think IBM, circa 1983. > > Josh > Right - I agree with you, Apple will and should stay on PPC and not x86 hardware, for better or worse. I just agreed they'd have a good system on x86 too. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message