From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Sep 17 17:26: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from gw.caamora.com.au (jonath5.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.41.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0BF1508F for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 17:25:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon@gw.caamora.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by gw.caamora.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05827; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 10:25:52 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jon) Message-ID: <19990918102551.A5764@caamora.com.au> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 10:25:51 +1000 From: jonathan michaels To: Martin M , newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: it just goes on and on....... Mail-Followup-To: Martin M , newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: <535d819f.25134568@aol.com> <008801bf0141$78229ea0$827e03cb@apana.org.au> <001301bf0131$0b6bc260$5d0ca7d1@lalala> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <001301bf0131$0b6bc260$5d0ca7d1@lalala>; from Martin M on Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 01:21:12PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD gw.caamora.com.au 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 X-Mood: i'm alive, if it counts Organisation: Caamora, PO Box 144, Rosebery NSW 1445 Australia Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 01:21:12PM -0400, Martin M wrote: > Ok, point taken.... sorry... > > I admit that my criticism was utterly unconstructive and useless, > inspired more by a similar situation I was going through than his > comments.... BUT > > I do think that people should attempt to keep their comments, if not > glowingly positive, at least neutral... We have all been there, and I > sympathise with his situation, but the way he phrases things makes me wonder > if the help he gets is appreciated. each one of us has thier own specific way of communication, not everybody has teh same command of teh the same language that we do . of our own that is. i suppose what i'm trying to say is that we need to be able to read teh words being used rather than looking for a reason to 'react'. i should know, all to well, sadly. because of my upbringing and a few "minor" congenital brain abnormalities i sue language in a almost uniquely 'jonathan' style. and, it has be the cause, reason, for more than a few problems from both sides of teh fence .. just quietly. one that it seems is teh delite of several posters from america, when they need to kick someting. its easy to find fault, its even easier to be one of teh crowding vultures. real communication comes about only when we can sit back and listen to what is being said ... not reacting to what we thought was being imputed. > So, um, I'm sorry and I will shut up now. no need to "shut up", rather take the time to listen (ok read) to what is being said (written) and remember that not every body uses language, or has the same skill, the same mastery as we might have. english might be the universal languge of The Internet, but universal understanding is a long way off. thank you for your post, it take a lot to say sorry, and it is always a good forst step in teh begining to listen process, so my grandmother used to say, and, so i have discovered in my own life. warm regards jonathan please excuse the spelling, its caused by dsylexia and a few neurological probelms that make typing and seeing more than just a bit hard. -- =============================================================================== Jonathan Michaels PO Box 144, Rosebery, NSW 1445 Australia =========================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message