From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 05:33:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7579A1065670 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 05:33:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46B908FC1B for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 05:33:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEFB3AFBC02; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:33:32 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 06:33:29 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <1228356394.23645.24.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <200812040944.38210.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <1228416719.79750.25.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: <1228416719.79750.25.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812050633.29979.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Da Rock Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0 problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 05:33:34 -0000 On Thursday 04 December 2008 19:51:59 Da Rock wrote: > Why would I install a beta when I'm mainly interested in stable > releases? That's why I asked. You're not in a position to troubleshoot this problem, since the usual suspects (wrong driver, signs of significant acpi problems) don't apply and you'd have to really be willing to compile custom kernels, set tunables and apply patches to get to the bottom of this. The drm devices aren't created, and the reason for that is unclear. Nothing in dmesg shows a failure. The iwi problem could be signal strength, driver related or the fact that 7.0 uses SCHED_4BSD instead of the proven better working SCHED_ULE. And when reporting bugs in the PR system, the first thing developers will ask you is if you reproduce it on 7.1-BETA or a snapshot. Loads of fixes have gone into the upcoming 7.1. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part.