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Date:      Thu, 19 Nov 2020 18:15:48 +0100
From:      Daniel Ebdrup Jensen <debdrup@FreeBSD.org>
To:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: How is Thunderbird signing my emails?
Message-ID:  <20201119171548.anb34fpeuij3liyr@nerd-thinkpad.local>
In-Reply-To: <7CB521CC-8B8D-4E06-BBE0-23FD58A2F79F@freebsd.am>
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On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 04:05:40PM +0400, Antranig Vartanian wrote:
>I=E2=80=99m wondering if there are any alternative clients that Just Works=
 and uses GnuPG keyring?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 19 Nov 2020, at 3:02 PM, Lev Serebryakov <lev@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>
>> =EF=BB=BFOn 19.11.2020 5:52, George Mitchell wrote:
>>
>>> The Thunderbird people have integrated the functionality of Enigmail
>>> into Thunderbird itself.  In the abstract, this sounds like a great
>>> idea, because I believe that the more people use PGP signatures and
>>> encryption, the better.  But the concrete reality of the implementation
>>> puzzles me in a couple of respects:
>> Concrete reality of the implementation is awful. It is not replacement f=
or Enigmail :-(
>>
>>> a. It's now inclined to attach my public key to every message I send,
>>> unless I tell it it not to do that on a message-by-message basis (under
>>> the "Security" menu in the message composition dialog).  I can't find
>>> where I can globally disable this.
>> See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D1654950 - new release=
s will have hidden setting for it.
>>
>>> b. More alarmingly, when it appends my PGP signature to my outgoing
>>> messages, it is able to unlock my private key without asking for the
>>> passphrase.  How is it doing this??
>> New Thunderbird doesn't use GPG keyring, it imports all keys into its ow=
n database (also it doesn't use Web Of Trust!). Private keys are protected =
only by global profile password (did you have this one set? I'm in doubt, i=
t  is rarely-used feature). So, if you account is without global password, =
you imported private keys are not protected at all. Good luck with that :-(
>>
>> --
>> // Lev Serebryakov
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Hi folks,

NeoMutt and GnuPG works well together, and NeoMutt can even render html ema=
il by=20
using w3m as a pager for the by setting 'auto_view text/html' and putting t=
he=20
following into ~/.mailcap:
text/html; w3m -T text/html %s; nametemplate=3D%s.html; copiousoutput

I've been using it on my FreeBSD laptop for both mailing lists, FreeBSD=20
development, and as a daily driver.

Also, please think of this as a little reminder not to top-post on mailing=
=20
lists. :)

Yours respectfully,
Daniel Ebdrup Jensen

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