From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 23 06:05:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C96316A4B3 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:05:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fs5-4.us4.outblaze.com (205-158-62-136.outblaze.com [205.158.62.136]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7D4FA43FCB for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:05:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luomat@operamail.com) Received: (qmail 19061 invoked from network); 23 Sep 2003 13:02:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Tim) (luomat:operamail.com?operamail.com@68.23.217.147) by 205-158-62-136.outblaze.com with SMTP; 23 Sep 2003 13:02:51 -0000 Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 09:05:01 -0400 To: Brad Knowles References: <20030922104213.L335@www.bluecirclesoft.com> <20030922194015.GA20427@kyblik.pieskovisko.sk> From: Timothy Luoma Organization: http://tntluoma.com Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera7.20/Win32 M2 build 3144 cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: M2 (Opera) Re: What are people using for MUA's nowadays? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:05:37 -0000 On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 02:48:31 +0200, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 8:18 PM -0400 2003/09/22, Timothy Luoma wrote: > > Ahh. The PowerMail solution. Right. Dunno about M2, but I did try > PowerMail. I liked it, I really did. Problem was the database wasn't > robust enough, and kept getting slightly slower as I added more and more > mail. I've got mail going back to 1992. I've got multiple gigabytes of > mail. PowerMail choked. I don't have that much mail, but I was able to use it with 60k messages in an early alpha version. > So, what kind of database does M2 use? Is M2 available for MacOS X? The mechanics are beyond me. M2 is not yet for MacOSX IIRC. > Access Points are basically just "views" into a database table. > PowerMail has been using the "views" name for quite a while. Actually M2 uses that name too. When you create your own filter it is called a "View" > Does it have integrated Bayesian anti-spam filtering? How is it at > applying rules in general to "access points"? I have yet to find > anything that is as good as or better than Eudora, especially Eudora 6, > when it comes to filtering -- save possibly procmail. The spam filter in M2 is not great ATM but I believe it is a planned improvement for the not-too-distant future procmail rocks. I love procmail. Nothing is going to beat procmail. M2 uses the List-Id: header for the mailing list access points. You can choose your own filters as well. Can you get Eudora for FreeBSD? >> Email is also easier to sort and find, because I can store things >> however I want to. Searches are done very quickly, I assume because >> of the way that Opera stores the mail. Which reminds me, that is >> another thing I like about M2: it stores mail in plain-text format. > > I'm confused. I thought you said it used a database? Well, perhaps I'm a bit confused as well, or perhaps I should have said it was "like" a database. Mail is actually stored (in plain text) in files or multiple files on the hard drive, but via M2 the best way to understand it is like a database. Again, the technical part of it is a little beyond me, so I may not be explaining it well. TjL -- Toying with the idea of putting Planning to install FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE on a Dell Inspiron 7500 laptop