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Date:      Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:00:52 -0500
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@mojave.sitaranetworks.com>
To:        Bernd Walter <ticso@cicely.de>, Kelly Yancey <kbyanc@posi.net>
Cc:        Rodney <rr@xs4all.nl>, freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: feature list journalled fs
Message-ID:  <19991104130052.13342@mojave.sitaranetworks.com>
In-Reply-To: <19991103105333.A89617@cicely7.cicely.de>; from Bernd Walter on Wed, Nov 03, 1999 at 10:53:33AM %2B0100
References:  <19991103005415.A88044@cicely7.cicely.de> <Pine.BSF.4.05.9911021900030.3164-100000@kronos.alcnet.com> <19991103105333.A89617@cicely7.cicely.de>

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On Wednesday,  3 November 1999 at 10:53:33 +0100, Bernd Walter wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 02, 1999 at 07:16:55PM -0500, Kelly Yancey wrote:
>> On Wed, 3 Nov 1999, Bernd Walter wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 02, 1999 at 12:35:53PM -0500, Greg Lehey wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, 31 October 1999 at 12:05:14 +0100, Rodney wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> here's my list of features I'd like to see in a
>>>>> journalled fs. Have to admit this list is heavily
>>>>> inspired ( ok , copied ) from the VxFS features,
>>>>> apart from th buzz words,
>>>>> some of them make sense, some of them don't
>>>>> but it should give us some stuff to discus:
>>>>> [snip]
>>>>> 6) vinum integration (vague)
>>>>
>>>> Vinum is just a virtual disk.  As such, any file system should work on
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>> It is more than that - it is a volume manager.
>>> Maybe you are not clear how far you got beyound the virtual disk.
>>> It manages disks and can find it's drive properly if they changed devices -
>>> that's working relay fine that I was able to remove nearly all wire
>>> configurations for drives and I'm eaven run a volume with only one single
>>> drive plex - just to get this feature.
>>> It can (or should be able to) resize a volume and should inform the system
>>> about.
>>
>>   I am under the impression that you can only enlarge a vinum volume if it
>> in a RAID 0 configuration (concatenation). Obviously, it would be very
>> difficult to enlarge a RAID 1 or RAID 5 configuration as it would require
>> restriping the data across all disks; I'm not familiar with any product,
>> hardware or software, that can do this.
>
> In case of Striping which is valid for Raid5 and concatenated Raid0 configrations
> it is not simply possible to do.
> But think of a Raid5 volume which is extended with concatenating another Raid5 set.
> This is not doable with vinum - but I'm shure that this won't happen before anyone
> is using such a feature feature.

Well, I'm sure that nobody will use this feature until it's available
:-)

Yes, I remember you asking for this feature.  I suppose I should add
it to the wish list (I just forgot to do it).

Greg
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