From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 10 21:00:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA26811 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 21:00:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.denverweb.net (root@sdn-ts-001coauroP02.dialsprint.net [206.133.160.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA26800 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 21:00:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion (blaine@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.denverweb.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA03461 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 22:11:14 -0600 Message-ID: <339E2562.2C453FBA@denverweb.net> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 22:11:14 -0600 From: Blaine Minazzi Organization: What, me organized? X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.27 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Internet providers discouraging customers from unix References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jacob Suter wrote: > > My point (as the support personel of intrastar.net)... morons shouldn't > use unix... If I have a user that calls and does something to the tune of > "I GOT MY (unix type) CD TODAY - PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO EXPLOIT SOMETHING > COOL!" I'm not going to be super-keen on telling this person what to > do.Unix IMHO is for elite people, not for lowly lamer people (ie - the guy > that barely knew enough to go to WAlmart and spend a lot of money on a > packard bell).. > > JS Most "lowly lamer people" as you put it have _no_ interest in Unix. They just want the latest whiz bang machine, loaded with the latest version of whatever microsquish decides to pass off as an operating system. Fortunatley, most of the people who are responsible for the exsistance of freeBSD and Linux, actually want to help people learn more, rather than treat everyone who knows less than they do as morons. We all get the "ASSHOLES DO VEX ME!" attitude from time to time. That is when we know that we are in need af a vacation. I find that most of the users I have that use some variation of unix, are far more able to solve their own problems than other users. I might have to spend a little more time at first, but they are usually not anywhere near as hard to deal with as the people who cannot even change directories, IF they even know what a directory is. They may be begginers with Unix, but, I am quite sure that you were a beginner once also. I will even lay odds than you made some of the exact same stupid mistakes as the rest of us. I will also bet that there were times that you recieved help from someone more astute than yourself... Why not pass it on? Bkm