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[209.85.219.173]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 00721157ae682-71b5a3a9ab2sm42718187b3.8.2025.08.06.16.43.39 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 06 Aug 2025 16:43:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yb1-f173.google.com with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-e8e2b50f8f1so453228276.0; Wed, 06 Aug 2025 16:43:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCVUq/iHRZL23D3g28S1pAXe61oVtggtVYnfDKhxdo3uAD3zjqaND6RXJM8MGvfr1e4BifnSQ17wkKs1SYXcoxWO@freebsd.org, AJvYcCWL+gG1B0ZWHkmidkpyhwaGcKaq+gsztT7nlXUuPHGdHVtIQ/4rnYnBgvEuB7zOi+3zFtTjWi3lGuUc1bg=@freebsd.org, AJvYcCWf4gC25b7okBzZWo5D2xC/y3a/KIRcY/N7vr3K10zBTpeBV6YqK3pVipy8FkgICn5g3zNX2Jo7H90zqo382Xs=@freebsd.org, AJvYcCWrPAxMp/zGAWFcvzguT0lCRaZq4asiBRXerFyDEqLdEWuNcHE+Bshope7kW50rbPyZsM9H4xwFRF19pFCrlh0=@freebsd.org X-Received: by 2002:a05:6902:150e:b0:e8b:c39a:3a70 with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-e902b8429d9mr4917644276.36.1754523818984; Wed, 06 Aug 2025 16:43:38 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Tomek CEDRO Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2025 01:43:28 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: X-Gm-Features: Ac12FXyF_m5weGcIz8NAks0yCWAIcHzas-Yekye59tqHaOybpDidChd7r9ouGmU Message-ID: Subject: Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature To: vermaden Cc: Ceri Davies , "FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4by6Lk6Bqjz3jym X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] On Thu, Aug 7, 2025 at 12:21=E2=80=AFAM vermaden wrot= e: > > So You still do not understand ... > > The pkg(8) command works fine - its just NOT SUPPOSE to DESTROY most of t= he FreeBSD Base System - because FreeBSD is not Linux to allow shit like th= at ... +1 =3D) Base and Userland should be clearly separated, as it was, as it is, no matter how it will be organized internally (i.e. modular base) :-) Maybe its worth thinking about some sort of standard minimal fallback environment (rescue?) when base gets broken for any reason (i.e. broken pkgbase, broken modules, fs corruption, broken hardware, accident) to either restore last working configuration or recreate defaults with/from what can be saved? :-) --=20 CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info