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Date:      Wed, 31 Jan 2007 12:34:08 -0500
From:      Mike Meyer <mwm-keyword-freebsdhackers2.e313df@mired.org>
To:        "Dr. Markus Waldeck" <waldeck@gmx.de>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: top delay value
Message-ID:  <17856.54032.973691.182086@bhuda.mired.org>
In-Reply-To: <20070131170241.230960@gmx.net>
References:  <200701311442.l0VEgQbA093491@lurza.secnetix.de> <20070131170241.230960@gmx.net>

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In <20070131170241.230960@gmx.net>, Dr. Markus Waldeck <waldeck@gmx.de> typed:
> >  > > typing "while :; do :; done".  There are a thousand ways
> 
> > No.  What I write above is not a "fork bomb", it's a single
> > process which is wasting CPU in a busy loop.  It's exactly
> > equivalent to top(1) with zero delay, except that top
> > produces some output, while a busy loop does nothing useful
> > at all.
> 
> I tested different shells and I found out that an exlicit sub shell
> is required to let the shell fork:
> 
> while :; do (:); done

That's still not a fork bomb. While it creates a process every time
through the loop, the process exits before the loop continues, so
you've still got just a few processes. Basicaly, it's still a busy
loop.

A true fork bomb creates an ever-increasing number of processes,
typically by forking copies of itself (which led to them being called
"rabbit jobs" when I first ran into one).

	<mike
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