From owner-freebsd-current Sun Feb 16 13:29:54 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED9737B401 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 13:29:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E42343F85 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 13:29:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.6/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h1GLTpO5075992; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 13:29:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.7/8.12.6/Submit) id h1GLSaOT075491; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 13:28:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 13:28:35 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Mark Murray Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OPIE breakage: backout & patch for review Message-ID: <20030216212835.GA74550@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Mail-Followup-To: David O'Brien , Mark Murray , current@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20030216185426.GB52253@dragon.nuxi.com> <200302161911.h1GJBnaX034785@grimreaper.grondar.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200302161911.h1GJBnaX034785@grimreaper.grondar.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 07:11:49PM +0000, Mark Murray wrote: > In the case where an application is OPIEised and not PAMised, we > need to figure out something; PAMizing such apps is not terribly > hard. If any of them are in the base system, then this situation > is a bug in its own right. If they are ports, they need to fall in > with FreeBSD/sysadmin policy. I'll state it again, because many don't seem to listen -- many of us consider OPIEized, but not PAMized 3rd party ports a Good Thing. PAM is nothing but a PITA, OPIE offers useful real functionality. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message