From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Apr 12 01:41:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA06349 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 01:41:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from csnet.cs.technion.ac.il (csnet.cs.technion.ac.il [132.68.32.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA06341 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 01:41:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nadav@cs.technion.ac.il) Received: from csd.csa (csd [132.68.32.8]) by csnet.cs.technion.ac.il (8.6.11/8.6.10) with ESMTP id LAA05493; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 11:41:33 +0300 Received: from localhost by csd.csa (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA26658; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 11:41:38 +0300 Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 11:41:38 +0300 (IDT) From: Nadav Eiron X-Sender: nadav@csd To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Mark Mayo , kris@airnet.net, David Shanes , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: <12130.892266950@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > These are great points - you want to write up a paper on "getting > FreeBSD into academic environments" and I'll print it in the > newsletter? Seriously, the points you've made are too useful to see > just vanish into the mailing list archives.. > > Jordan > Our CS department here at the Technion, for several reasons, is going to distribute CDs to students starting the next academic year. We currently have roughly 1200 undergrads in the department, and the plan calls for this figure to double in the next two years. The CD is intended for the students to use at home instead of swamping the department's overloaded machines. However, Linux is very strong here, and I could not persuade the faculty to use FreeBSD for the purpose. Their main points were the better availability of user-level docs, and the better support students will get from other students that already know Linux. However, all is not lost (I don't think they made any practical steps towards creating the CD). In the process, I also converted two labs to FreeBSD (after Sun suddenly wanted another $10000 for Solaris source licenses, it wasn't very hard). Yet, even these labs are under constant pressure to use NT... Any docs on why FreeBSD would be good for Academia will make a difference in such situations. What is missing, IMHO, is a list of institutions using FreeBSD, both for teaching and research as well as a list of major research operations that are carried out using [Free|Open|Net]BSD. Having links on www.freebsd.org to web pages for courses being taught on FreeBSD would be just great. It seems that for the purpose of handing out CDs to students, nobody is interested at how stable the OS is for running servers :-( Nadav To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message