From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 06:55:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5377D16A4D0 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 06:55:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web41008.mail.yahoo.com (web41008.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.93.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1811D43D46 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 06:55:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from asdzxc111@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20040729065528.59993.qmail@web41008.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.76.1.121] by web41008.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 23:55:27 PDT Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 23:55:27 -0700 (PDT) From: DK To: Jerry McAllister In-Reply-To: <200407281818.i6SIIUc01719@clunix.cl.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: Giorgos Keramidas cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BigApache for Windows - Why doesn't BSD have an installer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 06:55:28 -0000 --- Jerry McAllister wrote: > > - Installing Packages is nice & easy & straight forward from the > docs(should be more of these!) > > - Installing ports/packages via ftp/net - Forget it!! > > I have barely got BSD running, the last thing I want is connecting a BSD > > box to my broadband > > connection ?? Does BSD have a default firewall ?? Don't know, having > > trouble installing stuff let > > alone configuring a firewall via scripts/files > > You are probably better off and more secure with an initial install, with > no additional work or tweaking, of FreeBSD on the net than you would be > with a MS system with every know "fix" available. The system is > inherently more secure and in addition - and maybe partially because of > this - fewer, by far, attempts at cracking FreeBSD are made than are > made against MS systems. Some of this is, of course, because there are > much fewer FreeBSD systems out there to tempt kiddies. But, the fact > that cracking FreeBSD is more difficult contributes to this effect. So if I do a default install of FreeBSD & then connect to the net for ports/packages, is there a default firewall running in the background ?? > > > Then its going step by step with the install guides & when I try to install > MySQL, I type # > > groupadd mysql & I get "command not found" ... ??? no idea, I am following > the install guides... > > now if I am doing the same as everyone else with a fresh install of BSD, > why is it no one else > > gets groupadd mysql "command not found" ?? > > What does "commmand not found" sound like it means? > The shell doesn't know how to find the command you typed in. > Either you didn't update your search path to include the directory > it is in or it didn't get installed correctly where it should be. > Probably the first is true. So, find out where it should be and > add that directory to the path. See man path. thnx, will check out the path. > Again, you are much safer on the net with a FreeBSD system. > Just do it. I do all my installs over the net. > Do use appropriate precautions such as ssh instead of telnet and ssl > protected sites where possible and check md5-s of downloaded files. > But, don't let it stop you from using it with FreeBSD. Do you install FreeBSD first & connect to the net for ports/packages, or install the actual FreeBSD OS from the /stand/sysinstall & select the net ?? > It sounds a lot like you may have some processes wanting to check > themselves via the net upon startup that are holding things up > during boot. They will each wait until they time out before > things move on. I have several dual-boot machines, WinXP/FreeBSD, > Win2k/FreeBSd and Win95/FreeBSD and they all boot in about the same > amount of time with the FreeBSD being maybe a mite faster to get to > my login than the MS stuff being able to get to a state where I can > actually do something - eg not just getting the spash screen or background > displayed. So, either plug in the net or disable those utilities that > want to talk and try things again. My bootup is fine, its the BSD+wmaker running & opening nedit & a cmd prompts that are slower than Windows 2000 ?? any suggestions as to why ?? Kind regards, DK __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail