From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Sep 20 16: 3:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mg-20425418-51.ricochet.net (mg-20425427-42.ricochet.net [204.254.27.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A6315D18 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 16:03:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gurney_j@efn.org) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by mg-20425418-51.ricochet.net (8.9.1/8.8.7) id QAA14056; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 16:02:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19990920160107.33337@hydrogen.fircrest.net> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 16:01:07 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: "Matthew N. Dodd" Cc: Chuck Robey , Julian Elischer , Wayne Cuddy , FreeBSD Hackers List Subject: Re: what is devfs? References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: ; from Matthew N. Dodd on Mon, Sep 20, 1999 at 02:20:06AM -0400 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matthew N. Dodd scribbled this message on Sep 20: > On Sun, 19 Sep 1999, Chuck Robey wrote: > > But it was to the subject on the Subject: line, Julian. We know what side > > you're on, but there are 2 sides to the argument. Isn't there some way > > that it can be set up to *optionally* have permission persistence? > > Seems like a devfsd using the file monitoring hooks would work; you'd only > update the persistent store if you were running devfsd. devfsd would read > the store and init /dev with the contents. I think the only issue that > would involve thinking would be whiteouts (and the actual devfsd code of > course.) one thing that HAS to happen is the fast that some devices CAN'T "appeare" until the devfsd says it can, unless we force a very restrictive permision on all devices (600 or something similar) otherwise we will have security wholes up the wazoo... don't forget about this... a devfsd daemon is definately the way to go... -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 408 975 9651 Cu Networking "The soul contains in itself the event that shall presently befall it. The event is only the actualizing of its thought." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message