From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Fri Nov 11 16:08:28 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7D0EC3AA13 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2016 16:08:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@heily.com) Received: from mail-qk0-x235.google.com (mail-qk0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8946911C8 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2016 16:08:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@heily.com) Received: by mail-qk0-x235.google.com with SMTP id n21so24399823qka.3 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2016 08:08:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heily-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Ilh1Wyfq/HubyPNI5ipsiNhoKYnqA1qubCm9X9s2sFs=; b=bgrH0HT5gheJX4TmitOUeZnKz+42N1yi9N5pxsKz+I8kKl4d9Ryj9gVzZoMFzGlhn6 zPfSCFYb5Vb2SxPxbGE05gyBQDzaK48Tldb633uBWr7lTc+sKj43aojHe7FCsl//87BK I/ewXPYXPhlJ4aWaXE0n3PkEiIBnPWCzG0nFAgYK52+/CStY3KlVk2a1QvhTqrI0Bqu6 eQNrFcCEkh/GINwuxbDjGTNKzayanx7E2nfU3ztM7MwE1ps2dNTlEL8zXs3ZEXEJ614J 7zPKLESIFGn8VzZr9y6gEwj+NdXeYCYZBzZRgcGmSywQIcuAAqWZJAEil8EDtUttag+O 6XWg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Ilh1Wyfq/HubyPNI5ipsiNhoKYnqA1qubCm9X9s2sFs=; b=XvwQWwZ/omxolDtE7XYzStFoZfYyihYEVpRRBh3dNn4O7LeVpg6esD/VZ4ji5146kw HBxe2p+ll2uviZlkSwjmSkIK3gJoYlRVWe70JNsaStOwWRHtsIEPhS/Kp7wQpAJHaxMh LH8s1G46erJjCI0MS5Bt4p8hsGWyOgSZasCzo/1aKmlyD9nE+Yj+yoR0q839sl5y805p xUeORQUGxvN3jqZ7snvmRm6JJamSo+jAQ1PAUmUJHRF5owctf/EY70KQlG0yVxSKeyZu 5DqGqiwHJcWF4vMXmtlH6Q68pLbAGRr4f6haW4KpdFuzTtzCPSVYjVZnOnWfmOJnMFNS 0Smw== X-Gm-Message-State: ABUngvfW52kVphKI5J6iQsbyvZOPJa+0nmMuIhVE3VniK2YFsXrOqAc6WzHHOUHLTw1J6UiT1szAtyE3QhAUXg== X-Received: by 10.55.43.90 with SMTP id r87mr4359039qkh.234.1478880507507; Fri, 11 Nov 2016 08:08:27 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.12.147.189 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Nov 2016 08:08:26 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [71.70.175.250] In-Reply-To: References: From: Mark Heily Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2016 11:08:26 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Lenovo X1 Carbon or T460s To: Jeremie Le Hen Cc: FreeBSD Current Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2016 16:08:28 -0000 On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 6:25 AM, Jeremie Le Hen wrote: > Hi guys, > > I'm about to purchase a new laptop, one of the two mentioned in the > subject. > > I'm looking for reports of hardware support for both of them under FreeBSD. > What are the goods and bads? > > I just purchased a brand new Gen 4 X1 Carbon last week and tried a recent TrueOS build on it. I'm triple booting it with Windows and Linux for comparison purposes. Here's what I have seen so far regarding FreeBSD: - Wifi and the touchpad work fine. - The latest gen HiDPI screens (aka Retina display) have extremely high resolution relative to the size of the screen, which makes the console fonts extremely tiny. Even the TrueOS graphical installer was barely usable due to small fonts. If you want a graphical desktop environment, you'll have to figure out how to scale applications to look right under HiDPI. Lumina and the TrueOS display manager did a decent job of it, but didn't give me enough control over the scaling factor. With the latest Gnome on Linux, it gives you a lot of control over how applications are scaled. I've heard KDE5 also has support for HiDPI. - Skylake integrated video isn't accelerated. and feels a little slow. Video playback is choppy and disappointing. - Suspend/resume is reported not to work (I have not confirmed this) At this point, FreeBSD is still unusable due to display issues (IMHO) and I spend most of my time booting into Linux :( The hardware itself is great, other than the black finish seems to attract smudges and fingerprints. It's super lightweight, quiet, fast, and the keyboard and trackpad feel very comfortable.