From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 15:19:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A41D16A4CE for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 15:19:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from internet.potentialtech.com (h-66-167-251-6.phlapafg.covad.net [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B6B43D5E for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 15:19:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from working.potentialtech.com (pa-plum1c-102.pit.adelphia.net [24.53.179.102]) by internet.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B75469A71; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 11:19:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 11:19:47 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Luke Kearney Message-Id: <20040610111947.3dcf4694.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20040610235329.C76C.LUKEK@meibin.net> References: <20040610103818.148867d2.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20040610235329.C76C.LUKEK@meibin.net> Organization: Potential Technologies X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.10 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.9) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Frontpage and jails and possible alternatives X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 15:19:54 -0000 Luke Kearney wrote: > On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 10:38:18 -0400 > Bill Moran granted us these pearls of wisdom: > > > > > I just learned that if you run Apache+Frontpage, you can't teach Apache to > > only listen on a single IP address. For some reason, Frontpage causes > > Apache to always bind to all IP addresses. Somehow, this stupidity doesn't > > really surprise me too much. > > > > The reason I wanted to do this is because I have a machine I want to > > set jails up on, so I can run multiple instances of Apache. But I didn't > > want to mess with the existing Apache installation right now. > > > > Anyway ... in the long run I've got two choices: > > 1) Get Apache+Frontpage running in a jail so it will quit fscking up the other > > stuff I'm trying to do on this machine > > 2) Find some alternative to frontpage to provide frontpage services that > > behaves like a proper server. > > > > My questions are (respectively): > > 1) Does anyone have Apache+Frontpage successfully running in a jail? I just > > thought I'd ask before I spent (wasted?) a lot of time trying to make it > > work. > > 2) Can anyone suggest an alternative to Apache+Frontpage? I prefer scp myself > > (and there are even spiffy GUI scp clients for Windows) but many of these > > clients _insist_ on using Frontpage, so I _must_ continue to cater to them. > > > > TIA for any answers. > > Sorry if this is off track but one wonders if you need to have clients > upload to a production box with FP. Can you set up a staging server so > that clients can upload and view content then give them a simple admin > page where they can push a button that sets off an rsync script to the > production box. Your production machine could have all kinds of jails > and fancy stuff but no FP extentions. Any old piece of junk could be > pressed into service as a staging box. At least that way you could do > away with FP on the production box and apache could be jailed for life. Thanks, Luke. That's definately a good idea. The problem is that the "old pieces of junk, pressed into service" are the very reason I'm doing this project. We already have a number of older machines doing various stuff, and I'm trying to rearrange things to make better use of each of the various machines and it's capabilities. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com