From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 18:21:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FC9A16A4CE; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 18:21:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (creme-brulee.marcuscom.com [24.172.16.118]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 507EF43D58; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 18:21:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from [10.2.1.2] (vpn-client-2.marcuscom.com [10.2.1.2]) i8MILAWd051660; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 14:21:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Message-ID: <4151C2B8.2020707@marcuscom.com> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 14:21:44 -0400 From: Joe Marcus Clarke Organization: MarcusCom, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Macintosh/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jose M Rodriguez References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on creme-brulee.marcuscom.com cc: gnome@freebsd.org cc: kde@freebsd.org cc: x11@freebsd.org cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Plans for after FreeBSD-5.3-RELEASE. X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 18:21:48 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Jose M Rodriguez wrote: | | Hi, | | After test FreeBSD-5.3-BETA5 + current ports, I'm very glad with how | it's worked out. | | But I'm not convince about how X11, gnome and kde works together. | | I've to develop a NetWS / Kiosk for a customer and need to work on this. GNOME has been adding quite a few lock-down features to aid in these types of deployments. I would be very interested in knowing how they work out for you. | | Is anyone interested on that? I have always thought FreeBSD needed for desktop loving. I would be interested in helping with any project that makes FreeBSD more desktop-friendly. | | My TODO List is now by that: | | - Plans for moving/merging X11 config form /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/ to | /etc/X11/ | + seems to be most Linux/Unix trends | + easier WS setup. This is a mistake, IMHO. FreeBSD's model is not to put ports configuration files in /etc. In fact, the PAM files in /etc/pam.d now are rumored to me moving out to ${LOCALBASE} and ${X11BASE}. | | - Plans to work and standard FreeBSD way to X11 | + An implementation guide common to x11/gnome/kde (document -> | article | handbook) | + FreeBSD specific support for xinit/xdm config (~/.xinitrc ...) | + rcNG support for x11 | * /etc/rc.d/xdm. operative and valid for gdm/kdm/xdm | * /etc/rc.d/xfs? we need a font server with libXFT trends? | * /etc/rc.d/xserver. Xserver init for XDMCP (XTerminal) | * /etc/rc.d/xinit. Special init via xinit. I have a patch for rcNG support for gdm that will be going in after the freeze. | | - Plans to work on a FreeBSD 'feeling'. Same fonts, ... | + tweaks to apps-defaults, gnome and kde config. | + common process of resources. Xresources , Xmodmap, ... | | - Plans to specific support for NetBooting. NetWS, XTerminals, Kiosk | | - Plans to specific support easy thenmeing 'a la FreeBSD'. This sounds like a good project in and of itself (i.e. FreeBSD Desktop Project). Joe | | Any sugestion on this is welcome. | | -- | josemi | - -- PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBUcK3b2iPiv4Uz4cRArgWAJ4rJYgRbcexKl/gCSbwzHD6SqXDFQCghOFY FYsKpvKeokyODOtJUE9NuWs= =BcG4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----