From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 7 17:41:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A885B106576A for ; Sun, 7 Nov 2010 17:41:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46C588FC16 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 2010 17:41:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-101-204.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.101.204] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PF95q-00073r-MB for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 07 Nov 2010 09:31:52 -0800 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 07 Nov 2010 09:41:06 -0800 Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 09:41:06 -0800 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20101107174106.GB77433@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20101106190934.GB67566@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20101106200239.00004b64@unknown> <20101106203213.GC13095@guilt.hydra> <20101106225446.GC67566@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20101107101750.00006bd2@unknown> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="1LKvkjL3sHcu1TtY" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101107101750.00006bd2@unknown> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2010 17:41:13 -0000 --1LKvkjL3sHcu1TtY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Bruce Cran on Sunday, 07 November 2010: > On Sat, 6 Nov 2010 15:54:46 -0700 > Chip Camden wrote: >=20 > > What does KDE or GNOME buy you anyway? Besides overhead. >=20 > I don't expect to be able to convince you, but a lot of people find > desktop environments easier to use than a whole load of terminals. For > example I sometimes prefer to use kdiff3 instead of plain "svn diff" > and KDE makes that simple. >=20 > --=20 > Bruce Cran > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" I'm not here to bash desktop environments, I seriously want to know you use= them to improve productivity. I used to be a big believer in GUIs. Back in the early 90s, I experimented with creating my own completely visual development environment, with a high percentage of drag 'n' drop and doubleclick in place of command lines. Now I find that any time I reach for the mouse, I'm slowing myself down. It's more efficient to use the keyboard even to switch focused windows or to follow links in a browser (provided that the window manager and browser are equipped with usable shortcuts). I use a tiling wm (xmonad) to maximize visibility, real estate usage, and navigability. No overlapping windows unless I say so. That's my experience. How does yours differ, and how does KDE/GNOME help? --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --1LKvkjL3sHcu1TtY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJM1uSyAAoJEIpckszW26+R3OAIALYHL+aThgh8vmuKuPHOkhKL mN4ByEQp1K4fAjKvw1iq0BQnEeNy+cf3OgUTzvD1KzdVq3F9cP1a7VocW1V2SUSE G361bkWnMqypbzILhnneZMJNRrWsjKsKdETGXRNzhRZoModMV2pmTl1E7TRaGAex GG0aZMXwjcNiWYMiyUKph0PMXrYecg1S0pX+OoBETr58gANnD7NzThtyW2KmOtHb cRiqno7QIOgdpwWJHCRN8Tn8pHPr0DxEVnj5bgJ5kmMEs6FcujQQce5C3KNRAMc1 VLPa4rK3LI0zi1W3Kv6NRVn/f4Gfb06FIJ0jtChqiBapLFz1pGwTmVo2nrWb9h4= =g0fn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --1LKvkjL3sHcu1TtY--