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Date:      Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:15:21 -0800
From:      Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>
To:        Juli Mallett <jmallett@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        svn-src-head@FreeBSD.org, Qing Li <qingli@FreeBSD.org>, svn-src-all@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r205024 - head/sys/net
Message-ID:  <4B99EA09.80108@elischer.org>
In-Reply-To: <eaa228be1003111607s4e78fe73k26a67161642d510d@mail.gmail.com>
References:  <201003111756.o2BHukJu042449@svn.freebsd.org> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1003112128020.97017@fledge.watson.org> <9ace436c1003111530s3bd0de9cq451671909fb6aa64@mail.gmail.com> <eaa228be1003111535s12febe62x91124b0a015fd0ff@mail.gmail.com> <9ace436c1003111539t2af8439cn315c695d4b90e28d@mail.gmail.com> <eaa228be1003111607s4e78fe73k26a67161642d510d@mail.gmail.com>

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Juli Mallett wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 15:39, Qing Li <qingli@freebsd.org> wrote:
>> I guess it's a good time to clean things up. The if_link_state code has been
>> around for quite some time, either it be fully utilized or not be there at all.
>> The inconsistency is the root cause.
> 
> Sure.  There is an increasing amount of stuff that network drivers are
> expected to do, but they work without doing them.  It's easy to think
> you have a functioning network driver and that you can get by without
> adding support for media changes and link status reporting, etc.
> 
>> I will try going through these tonight and hopefully the fix all take a
>> common approach.

probably should add a flag that means "we have media state"
and if it is not set, assume it is always on.

> 
> If you can think of a way to add some invariants (warn the first time
> a driver receives a packet without having ever set the link state,
> make sure the media status callback sets the valid flag in the
> request, etc) that would probably be very helpful for people who are
> writing network drivers.  If I hadn't been following the threads about
> your changes, I would have had to spend much longer fixing the Octeon
> port's Ethernet driver, wondering why suddenly it broke and
> instrumenting the routing code.  A printf would go a long way.
> 
> Juli.




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