From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 20:34:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07FE516A4CE for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 20:34:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from phuket.psconsult.nl (ps226.psconsult.nl [213.222.19.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E68E43D60 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 20:34:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fb-hackers@psconsult.nl) Received: from phuket.psconsult.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phuket.psconsult.nl (8.12.8p2/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i8FKY4Ye027137; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 22:34:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from fb-hackers@psconsult.nl) Received: (from paul@localhost) by phuket.psconsult.nl (8.12.8p2/8.12.8/Submit) id i8FKY4Id027136; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 22:34:04 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 22:34:03 +0200 From: Paul Schenkeveld To: hackers@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040915203403.GA26454@psconsult.nl> Mail-Followup-To: hackers@freebsd.org, Matthew Seaman , Wilko Bulte , Andrea Campi , Sam References: <41483C97.2030303@fer.hr> <20040915152639.GB68395@webcom.it> <20040915154338.GA55823@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20040915170322.GA75590@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040915170322.GA75590@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: Wilko Bulte cc: Sam cc: Andrea Campi Subject: Re: ZFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 20:34:08 -0000 On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 06:03:22PM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 05:43:38PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 05:26:39PM +0200, Andrea Campi wrote.. > > > On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 10:59:36AM -0500, Sam wrote: > > > > Call me crazy, but does anyone else see this as hooey? 2^64 512B > > > > sectors is 8192 zettabytes (zetta, exa, peta, tera, ...). > > > [...] > > > > Crappy marketing articles. > > > > > > This one's good though. fortune(6) worthy, I mean: > > > > > > Populating 128-bit file systems would exceed the quantum limits of > > > earth-based storage. You couldn't fill a 128-bit storage pool without > > > boiling the oceans. > > > > Hmmmm... that explains the global warming then... > > I once calculated that there were sufficient IPv6 addresses (another > 128 bit quantity) to provide a distinct address for every cluster of > about 10^12 atoms within planet Earth. 10^12 atoms sounds like quite > a lot, but it is much smaller than a typical bacterium and a hell of a > lot smaller than any transistor ever manufactured: even if you > converted the entire planet into a data storage system, you wouldn't > have enough matter to build a filesystem that big, let alone power > supplies, cabling, support structures etc. Be ware... Jules Verne was called crazy when he saw men would walk on the moon sometime. Leonardo da Vinci was laughed at when he envisioned people flying like birds. We people had things wrong in the past when we held things for impossible. We may not be around to witness storing over 2^128 bytes of information but your words sound like NEVER and I think that's a scary word. > Cheers, > > Matthew Cheers! Paul Schenkeveld