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Date:      Wed, 31 Jul 1996 08:53:06 -0700
From:      Paul Traina <pst@shockwave.com>
To:        "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Narvi <narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee>, ports@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: gnats needs emacs to even build ! 
Message-ID:  <199607311553.IAA08587@precipice.shockwave.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 30 Jul 1996 22:24:53 %2B0200." <199607302024.WAA02479@vector.jhs.no_domain> 

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It requires emacs to install correctly.  As far as maintainer goes,
I'm willing to answer questions, and I intend to audit proposed changes
quite heavily, but I'm too busy to sign up for more right now.

  From: "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@FreeBSD.org>
  Subject: Re: gnats needs emacs to even build ! 
  Hi, Reference:
  > From: Narvi <narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee>
  
  > On Tue, 30 Jul 1996, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
  > 
  > > Hi PST cc ports
  > > 
  > > I was thinking of learning gnats, but
  > > 	gnats/Makefile:
  > > 		BUILD_DEPENDS=  emacs:${PORTSDIR}/editors/emacs
  > > 	on freefall:
  > > 		10379090 Jun 11 01:34 emacs-19.31.tar.gz
  > > 
  > 
  > Hmm... Can't you use the package?
  
  Umm, that never even occured to me ! I always `roll my own' :-)
  
  
  > Or do you in fact need to build it? You 
  > could even watch the build process to the point it needs emacs by 
  > removing that dependency...
  
  True.  I was rather hoping for existence of a `sanitised' gnats; I guess not.
  
  -----
  
  > From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami)
  
   * Qestion: Is emacs mandatory ?  or does gnats have a `running light' capabi
>>lity
  
  Please read the Makefile more carefully.
  
   > # we've got some .elc and info files to compile (yuck)
   > BUILD_DEPENDS=  emacs:${PORTSDIR}/editors/emacs
  
  Besides, this being BUILD_DEPENDS pretty much implies that this is
  required for building, not using gnats.
  
  Well, I guess some people perhaps just make a first declaration of a 
  dependency, & assume subsequent dependencies are thus satisfied ?
  after all there's config, make, install & run depencies ....
  I'd assumed emacs was needed for running too, & was wondering if anyone had 
  handy tricks (as are available with exmh) to avoid default emacs
  dependency, & depend on a-n-other ed.
  
  > Feel free to modify the port to ignore the .elc and info files, and
  > you can take out the BUILD_DEPENDS line if you wish.
  
  Will it then build & run without emacs ?
  I'd much prefer if the Maintainer could do this as I don't know gnats
  I was hoping to learn gnats, rather learn emacs or 
  hack the gnats ports, but I now notice with trepidation,
  that pst is only in as 
  	# Whom:                 pst
  & there is no
  	MAINTAINER = 
  So I guess it's wide open for anyone who knows gnats (excludes me, I trust !)
  
  Julian
  --
  Julian H. Stacey	jhs@freebsd.org  	http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/



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