From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 12:27:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9326F16A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 12:27:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from kayjay.xs4all.nl (kayjay.xs4all.nl [80.126.33.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0036543D1F for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 12:27:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from karelj@kayjay.xs4all.nl) Received: from kayjay.xs4all.nl (localhost.wop.wtb.tue.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kayjay.xs4all.nl (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i1MKTFcH021255; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 21:29:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from karelj@kayjay.xs4all.nl) Received: (from karelj@localhost) by kayjay.xs4all.nl (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i1MKTBsf021254; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 21:29:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from karelj) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 21:29:11 +0100 From: "Karel J. Bosschaart" To: Justin Smith Message-ID: <20040222202911.GA21232@kayjay.xs4all.nl> References: <4038F6F7.5050000@drexel.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4038F6F7.5050000@drexel.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: This has to be a bug... X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 20:27:27 -0000 On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 01:37:43PM -0500, Justin Smith wrote: > > > >What video hardware are you using? I have a Geforce4 using the > >nvidia driver and got used to crashes while starting games. Once the > >game is up however I can't remember that I ever had a crash. It's difficult > >to make a guess how frequently this happens, but since installing the > >UT2004 demo (about a week ago) I had only one crash while starting the > >demo. > >I have no idea how to reproduce these crashes :-(. > > > > > >>time after a fresh install of it), it corrupts the file system in a way > >>that requires one to manually run fsck. The first time I used the > >>America's Army, even the manual fsck couldn't fix the fs corruption: > >>there was a message "unrecoverable softupdates error". I was able to > >>mount the partition, back up my data, rebuild the file system, and > >>restore the data. > > > Good point! I'm using a GEForce 2 card with the Nvidia driver. The only > other time I got crashes like this was when I tried to run > graphic-intensive applications under CURRENT (with debugging code turned > on). So the nvidia driver might be responsible. > > Thank you! (I'll just have to close all the windows when running this...) Did a quick test: I installed AA2 on my system and started it 10 times on 4.9, 10 times on 5.2. On 5.2 it would start successfully all 10 times, but on 4.9 it failed 4 times causing a reboot. Looks like the familiar thing I see with other games as well but definitely with a higher probability of failing. Some things are different on my installations: 4.9: linux_base 8, Nvidia AGP 5.2: linux_base 7, FreeBSD AGP and probably more things, but my suspicion is that the difference in AGP setup might cause the trouble. Setting up AGP though is a sort of black magic: just try and see if it does not crash is the usual way... :-(. Karel.