From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jun 13 07:24:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA23232 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 07:24:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA23223 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 07:24:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04520; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 11:13:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Message-ID: <19980613111334.15162@nothing-going-on.org> Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 11:13:34 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Tim Gerchmez , Donald Burr , DrAcO Cc: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Installing X-Windows References: <3581B36E.C76B5891@mci2000.COM> <3.0.5.32.19980613015739.007e36a0@mx.serv.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980613015739.007e36a0@mx.serv.net>; from Tim Gerchmez on Sat, Jun 13, 1998 at 01:57:39AM -0700 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Jun 13, 1998 at 01:57:39AM -0700, Tim Gerchmez wrote: > At 08:02 PM 6/12/98 -0700, Donald Burr wrote: > >* Enlightenement -- not a clone of anything, but a really cool looking WM. > > It, too, has its own set of devoted followers. > > /usr/ports/x11/enlightenment > > Yikes! I had to comment on Enlightenment. First of all, don't use it on a > 486, it's too slow. Secondly, it resembles a lot of those Adobe Photoshop > plugins, seriously! It's SO overly graphical that it's hard to make heads > or tails of (it looks like the guy who used to do the Wired Magazine > layouts designed it ;-). But I found it to be interesting anyway. It's also quite buggy (the 0.13 releases anyway, but that's to be expected) and while you can configure it to look like pretty much anything you want, configuring it to behave the way you want is another matter. > Also of mention in FreeBSD is xdm, a windows manager that can help > integrate several different X-clients. xdm isn't a window manager. At its simplest, xdm is a graphical replacement for getty and login, letting you log in to X straight away, with no intermediate console login and then having to type 'startx' (or whatever you use), although it can do more than that. > For those that haven't, try typing xdm while logged on as root (only > root can use it). Nope. It's meant to be started by root, probably as one of the things in /etc/rc.local (there's a FAQ question about this). > It's pretty cool - the only problem is, it's hard to get rid of - when > you exit it, it keeps coming back! The only way I know of to get rid of > it is to open a terminal window as root and type 'killall xdm' > (without the single quotes). There are probably things you can edit in > the config files, too. But give xdm a try once you start playing with > some different X clients. That's the point. xdm is managing your login, so when you quit X xdm thinks you've logged out, and throws up another login prompt. xdm is great if you've got a few fast computers that people can connect to, and lots more slower workstations running X, and you just want to provide a simple mechanism for the user community to get in to X. It's less useful on a single user workstation (unless you *know* that you're going to be running X as soon as your computer finishes booting, in which case you may as well use it, and put a pretty picture on the "Login" background :-) ) N To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message