From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Nov 30 23:01:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA12763 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 23:01:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers) Received: from vinyl.quickweb.com (vinyl.quickweb.com [209.112.4.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA12755 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 23:01:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@quickweb.com) Received: (from mark@localhost) by vinyl.quickweb.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id CAA04507; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 02:02:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19971201020226.10663@vmunix.com> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 02:02:26 -0500 From: Mark Mayo To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Jacques Vidrine , Alex , "hackers@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Out of Box experience (Was: Re: How is selection made of what goes into CDrom?) References: <19477.880953184@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <19477.880953184@time.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Sun, Nov 30, 1997 at 09:13:04PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, Nov 30, 1997 at 09:13:04PM -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > ... I _am_ saying that software with such licenses should not be used in > > the implementation of FreeBSD itself or essential FreeBSD utilities, such > > as sysinstall. Why carry such luggage? > > What? Eh? I wasn't talking about doing anything of the sort in > FreeBSD. Sysinstall in Qt certainly isn't on *my* todo list and I > doubt that it ever would be unless somebody suddenly decided that they > wanted to pay me $100,000 to do it or something :-). Has anyone ever looked into the QNX micro-gui (or whatever they call it these days) stuff?? You can download a floppy from their site that will boot a full "X-like" GUI, run a web server, make a PPP connection, and give you a web browser. It's nothing short of astonishing. Their technique appears to be very similar to FreeBSD's, essentially uncompressing a kernel and firing up a MFS to hold everything. Very Unix like, although it would appear QNX is trying to disassociate themselves from anything UNIX'y lately... The second I started the thing up, visions of the slickest OS install in the world were flashing through my head... The FreeBSD Photon-GUI installer. Now that would grab attention. I wonder if QNX would *ever* consider donating the tools to FreeBSD in return for a "QNX ad" at the start up of the install? I doubt it, but they are less and less "competition" all the time. I know someone who works there, I'll give him a call and run the idea by him. At the very least, I'm going to see how much they charge, and if they have a royalty free license, which I'm sure they do. Man it would make such a kick-ass FreeBSD installer!! :-) -Mark > > I was simply reacting to your implication (cited below) that KDE > shouldn't use it. > > Jordan > > > > > > Jacques Vidrine > > > > > > Only KDE depends upon Qt, which doesn't have an appropriate software > > > > license. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mark Mayo mark@vmunix.com RingZero Comp. http://www.vmunix.com/mark finger mark@vmunix.com for my PGP key and GCS code ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Win95/NT - 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition. -UGU