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Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <00A8CB48-BEEC-432C-8600-4AC333443131@kreme.com> Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46pwmg5L1Mz4Gt3 X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of liedtke@punkt.de designates 217.29.33.131 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=liedtke@punkt.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.58 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.991,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:217.29.32.0/20]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; HAS_ATTACHMENT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/mixed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.39)[ip: (-0.20), ipnet: 217.29.32.0/20(-0.97), asn: 16188(-0.76), country: DE(-0.01)]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[punkt.de]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16188, ipnet:217.29.32.0/20, country:DE]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MIME_UNKNOWN(0.10)[application/pgp-keys] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 16:01:08 -0000 Am 10.10.19 um 17:17 schrieb LuKreme: > On Oct 9, 2019, at 00:15, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >> I agree I don't see the reason why we should keep that ipv6 option. When off >> this option does not bring much value to the users as the code for apps to >> support ipv6 mostly reside in the libc. Actually that was my intent in 2012 to >> first turn it on by default everywhere and then drop the option entirely. > My isp does not support ipv6, so my services are not set to use it. I did have to specifically disable it in configuration for something, I forget what, but I have never felt the need to disable it in builds. > Why not just make building in IPv6 support the default, and introduce a flag if someone really needs or wants to build without that support? Best regards Lars -- punkt.de GmbH * Kaiserallee 13a * 76133 Karlsruhe Tel. 0721 9109 0 * Fax 0721 9109 100 info@punkt.de https://www.punkt.de Gf: Jürgen Egeling AG Mannheim 108285