From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Jul 28 1:33: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mail.palmerharvey.co.uk (mail.palmerharvey.co.uk [62.172.109.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9442F14F47 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 01:32:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Dom.Mitchell@palmerharvey.co.uk) Received: from ho-nt-01.pandhm.co.uk (unverified) by mail.palmerharvey.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:27:39 +0100 Received: from voodoo.pandhm.co.uk (VOODOO [10.100.35.12]) by ho-nt-01.pandhm.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id PJ2VDW0A; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:27:38 +0100 Received: from dom by voodoo.pandhm.co.uk with local (Exim 2.10 #1) id 119P3l-0004C9-00; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:27:33 +0100 Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:27:33 +0100 To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai Cc: Dominic Mitchell , David Scheidt , Dag-Erling Smorgrav , Len Huppe , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What to tell to Linux-centric people?!' Message-Id: <19990728092732.C16017@voodoo.pandhm.co.uk> References: <19990727125231.A66520@voodoo.pandhm.co.uk> <19990727191738.A8427@daemon.ninth-circle.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: <19990727191738.A8427@daemon.ninth-circle.org>; from Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai on Tue, Jul 27, 1999 at 07:17:38PM +0200 From: Dominic Mitchell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jul 27, 1999 at 07:17:38PM +0200, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > * Dominic Mitchell (Dom.Mitchell@palmerharvey.co.uk) [990727 17:15]: > > Ksh is fine, and a lot better than a lot of people realise. The one > > beef that I have with it, after coming from zsh/bash is that completion > > is ESC ESC (or ESC \ in vi mode), instead of TAB. Dammit, everything > > should use TAB!! > > *cough* bullshit *cough* > > set -o vi-tabcomplete > > Questions? [that's pdksh btw] I know that's pdksh. The same pdksh that doesn't come installed on all the commercial Unixes I have to deal with. And if I've *got* to install software add-ons, I'll zsh, as it's far superior than ksh anyway. The point I was trying to make is that ordinary, plain-jane David Korn's own shell (1998 edition) is *almost* reasonable for interactive use bar that one teensy point. If only the vendors would get around to installing ksh93 instead of ksh88 (dtksh don't count), as that does allow arbitrary key bindings. Bloody typical of the Unix vendors that they're still 11 years out of date... Talk about stifling development. -- Dom Mitchell -- Palmer & Harvey McLane -- Unix Systems Administrator In Mountain View did Larry Wall Sedately launch a quiet plea: That DOS, the ancient system, shall On boxes pleasureless to all Run Perl though lack they C. -- ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. ********************************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message