From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Sun Sep 9 16:32:23 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B504510987E0 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2018 16:32:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from se@freebsd.org) Received: from mailout01.t-online.de (mailout01.t-online.de [194.25.134.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mailout00.t-online.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 43E7377C75; Sun, 9 Sep 2018 16:32:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from se@freebsd.org) Received: from fwd01.aul.t-online.de (fwd01.aul.t-online.de [172.20.27.147]) by mailout01.t-online.de (Postfix) with SMTP id D2673430E239; Sun, 9 Sep 2018 18:32:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Stefans-MBP-LAN.fritz.box (bjeDsoZG8hN7nnBAPIPDe86ezg3cBV+0F8bg9Uv+iH+tJVxEg58s+To27elsVsDQHb@[93.200.59.58]) by fwd01.t-online.de with (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 encrypted) esmtp id 1fz2dC-0XGdqy0; Sun, 9 Sep 2018 18:32:14 +0200 Subject: Re: Which platform should I download for FreeBSD? References: <639A96B3-0661-47B9-81A7-1284A6AE9733@icloud.com> <35d1fdd4-3aac-7b2b-a778-36c517da7ade@FreeBSD.org> From: Stefan Esser Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=se@freebsd.org; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= xsBNBFVxiRIBCADOLNOZBsqlplHUQ3tG782FNtVT33rQli9EjNt2fhFERHIo4NxHlWBpHLnU b0s4L/eItx7au0i7Gegv01A9LUMwOnAc9EFAm4EW3Wmoa6MYrcP7xDClohg/Y69f7SNpEs3x YATBy+L6NzWZbJjZXD4vqPgZSDuMcLU7BEdJf0f+6h1BJPnGuwHpsSdnnMrZeIM8xQ8PPUVQ L0GZkVojHgNUngJH6e21qDrud0BkdiBcij0M3TCP4GQrJ/YMdurfc8mhueLpwGR2U1W8TYB7 4UY+NLw0McThOCLCxXflIeF/Y7jSB0zxzvb/H3LWkodUTkV57yX9IbUAGA5RKRg9zsUtABEB AAHNKVN0ZWZhbiBFw59lciAoWWFob28hKSA8c3QuZXNzZXJAeWFob28uZGU+wsCWBBMBCgBA AhsDBwsJCAcDAgEGFQgCCQoLBBYCAwECHgECF4AWIQSjceplnAvsyCtxUxNH67XvWv31RAUC WvLvqwUJCyUBEwAKCRBH67XvWv31REySCACc6vqcSFQCRyBRc2CV5ZBjbbnTy7VBoXbUS3/c 4Hn8I0YQ39q7//2z8vYsgLeM1mMXL4PUIU/0f0dBAFBLpxV7bntGzyCJls6SeGS/qcQKhqaI 6I7NcWg8OkIJIhUL6q238cS1ql9pU65fyHe0PP8JS08m81PDpX2/4wTE6h2jgYUy55eXRzoF MEjr1S8SSnidsBem27o7iWu9ltJsUtE86071iZlLzbuHv2nvucrjAV9cK9tHrxYT/YiY8QhT L48iWj2xIjLjg1ebmgIFZ2k881we/KTIoUugqOOR1gDSc4qwM8CA388cN3frjtl98CwhAT5T UV8tIDqri+/Z1AKwzsBNBFVxiRIBCACxI/aglzGVbnI6XHd0MTP05VK/fJub4hHdc+LQpz1M kVnCAhFbY9oecTB/togdKtfiloavjbFrb0nJhJnx57K+3SdSuu+znaQ4SlWiZOtXnkbpRWNU eMm+gtTDMSvloGAfr76RtFHskdDOLgXsHD70bKuMhlBxUCrSwGzHaD00q8iQPhJZ5itb3WPq z3B4IjiDAWTO2obD1wtAvSuHuUj/XJRsiKDKW3x13cfavkad81bZW4cpNwUv8XHLv/vaZPSA ly+hkY7NrDZydMMXVNQ7AJQufWuTJ0q7sImRcEZ5EIa98esJPey4O7C0vY405wjeyxpVZkpq ThDMurqtQFn1ABEBAAHCwHwEGAEKACYCGwwWIQSjceplnAvsyCtxUxNH67XvWv31RAUCWvLv qwUJCyUBGQAKCRBH67XvWv31RLnrB/9gzcRlpx71sDMosoZULWn7wysBJ/8AIEfIByRaHQe3 pn/KwE57pB+zFbbQqB7YzeZb7/UUgR4zU2ZbOcEfwDZcHUbj0B3fGRsS3t0uiLlAd8w0sBZb SxrqzjdpDjIbOZkxssqUmvrsN67UG1AFWH9aD24keBS7YjPBS8hLxPeYV+Xz6vUL8fRZje/Z JgiBMIwyj6g2lH/zkdnxBdC0iG1xxJOLTaghMMeQyCdH6ef8+VMyAlAJsMckbOTvx63tY8z7 DFcrnTJfbe1EziRilVsEaK8tTzJzhcTfos+f3eBYWEilxe5HzIhYKJeC7lmsSUcGwa6+9VRg a0ctmi9Z8OgX Cc: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Message-ID: <33a568e6-2e83-e0f9-3c43-cb4926fd22b0@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 18:32:11 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <35d1fdd4-3aac-7b2b-a778-36c517da7ade@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="eFACtPbuWlmqRWqTHiskDks6UWMHnacCt" X-ID: bjeDsoZG8hN7nnBAPIPDe86ezg3cBV+0F8bg9Uv+iH+tJVxEg58s+To27elsVsDQHb X-TOI-MSGID: 3d875b09-1839-44c3-8074-ae624cc38fea X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2018 16:32:24 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --eFACtPbuWlmqRWqTHiskDks6UWMHnacCt Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="PKn1seE1VxCVd5tTMGR75s1uSTxnPtNTi"; protected-headers="v1" From: Stefan Esser To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Cc: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <33a568e6-2e83-e0f9-3c43-cb4926fd22b0@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Which platform should I download for FreeBSD? References: <639A96B3-0661-47B9-81A7-1284A6AE9733@icloud.com> <35d1fdd4-3aac-7b2b-a778-36c517da7ade@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <35d1fdd4-3aac-7b2b-a778-36c517da7ade@FreeBSD.org> --PKn1seE1VxCVd5tTMGR75s1uSTxnPtNTi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 09.09.18 um 18:13 schrieb Matthew Seaman: > On 09/09/2018 14:20, Miroslav Lachman wrote: >> Jason Lindsey via freebsd-arch wrote on 2018/09/09 01:53: >>> I hope you help me, >>> >>> I own a iMac 64, and do not know if I should download amd64 or arm64 >>> platforms to support FreeBSD.=A0 I would appreciate an answer to my >>> question ASAP, in that I currently learning Solaris 10 and other >>> versions of BSD software.=A0 I would like to include FreeBSD in my st= udies. >=20 > Solaris 10 is SysV, not BSD. You have to go all the way back to SunOS > 4.x for the last BSD variant from Sun. A pedantic distinction I know, > but it's what some of us live for. To be really pedantic: The USL vs. BSDI lawsuit found, that Sys V.4 (or Solaris 5) contained more BSD than SysV code, and that the only change was the removal of the BSD copyright text (which actually was the only change *not* allowed by the copyrighgt clauses ...). > So, unless the OP has a rather elderly machine, amd64 is the > architecture you need. There did use to be some PPC support in FreeBSD= , > but it never was a Tier-1 architecture, and I think it's basically > unsupported if not gone entirely on up-to-date versions of the OS. Yes, it's definitely amd64, but PPC support is being worked on and alive as a tier-2 platform with support for both the 32 and 64 bit variants: https://wiki.freebsd.org/powerpc Regards, STefan --PKn1seE1VxCVd5tTMGR75s1uSTxnPtNTi-- --eFACtPbuWlmqRWqTHiskDks6UWMHnacCt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEo3HqZZwL7MgrcVMTR+u171r99UQFAluVSwsACgkQR+u171r9 9URTqAf/UcsxnzBjsClXRYUlLQdpBP7Qhow+rvnNWTP0EWs87lbdGuzoezQtV0Br a7uVYUC9FAdI3Gqr1ox/zoyab39vflYTzEse/s7pOT5fd+OoKRL3vujbdWLucJZ1 PRrke1wxhnmkcTYWvRHbRKh3ZwEiDuEl7yEnBbDSrE3tS7JPYn4mqQt4kLcOHjt5 InQEHYIcDqWKi2LTesw23NBY5JCGJ2ktTKG4IOsN/B7pWggKAMZBzZF9CveqJLRX tGyinOlSoRhLWiRn/pc5L6ZFbFQvvnIgTrzj10ZiycDA4jfTpFKdDAa5PxPFrehu C7lUBzTB74WJtuOPzNSPU5Hk7GgLQg== =kFlU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --eFACtPbuWlmqRWqTHiskDks6UWMHnacCt--