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Date:      Wed, 24 Feb 2021 17:27:42 -0700
From:      Alan Somers <asomers@freebsd.org>
To:        Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
Cc:        Ravi Pokala <rpokala@freebsd.org>,  "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: `sysctl vm.pmap.kernel_maps' spins on 12.2-RELEASE-p3 w/ nvdimm.ko
Message-ID:  <CAOtMX2iDXoYYm=eMs12Rj-oQH3zVr15UW9htpAGajAWEWT-6%2Bg@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 5:26 PM Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 04:55:46PM -0700, Alan Somers wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 4:49 PM Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 03:37:12PM -0800, Ravi Pokala wrote:
> > > > Hi folks,
> > > >
> > > > A colleague and I both independently observed `sysctl -a' appear to
> hang
> > > on nodes running FreeBSD 12.2-RELEASE-p3; it didn't emit any output,
> and ^C
> > > didn't kill it. We could still establish a new terminal session to the
> > > node, via SSH or serial console, and we were able to see that it was
> > > actually spinning, not hung, and was consuming an entire CPU.
> > > >
> > > > We eventually determined that it was specifically `sysctl
> > > vm.pmap.kernel_maps' which was spinning, and subsequently that it only
> > > spinned if nvdimm.ko was loaded. It was not necessary to access the
> device
> > > node associated with the NVDIMM; merely having the module loaded was
> > > sufficient.
> > > >
> > > > I know nvdimm(4) isn't terribly widely used, but hopefully someone
> who
> > > uses it can at least confirm my findings on this. Help in debugging
> would
> > > be even more appreciated.
> > > >
> > >
> > > How large your nvdimms are?  Their' SPAs are mapped into KVA fully and
> this
> > > could be quite large.  It could be busy dumping page tables.
> > >
> > > Try to skip large map in pmap.c:sysctl_kmaps() (just increment i over
> it).
> > >
> >
> > Speaking of vm.pmap.kernel_maps, that thing is huge.  It easily dwarfs
> all
> > other sysctls combined, and tends to grow with time.  Would it be
> possible
> > to hide it from sysctl -a's output?  I think there are other sysctls like
> > that, that are treated as opaque binary values.  I once had to fix a bug
> in
> > py37-salt that caused a common operation to take _6_hours_ as opposed to
> <
> > 1 minute because of a huge vm.pmap.kernel_maps value, coupled with some
> > O(n^2) string processing.
>
> jhb already marked this sysctl ask CTLFLAG_SKIP, several months ago.
> The change was not merged back to 12.
>

Ahh, good.



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