From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 15 10:13:24 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9A3B37B401; Thu, 15 May 2003 10:13:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9A4343F85; Thu, 15 May 2003 10:13:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4FHDFEB008932; Thu, 15 May 2003 19:13:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h4FHDFYm008931; Thu, 15 May 2003 19:13:15 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 19:13:15 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Alexey Dokuchaev Message-ID: <20030515171315.GB8876@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20030515014303.GA53992@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030515033930.GD20512@elvis.mu.org> <20030515062249.GA7577@sunbay.com> <20030515152805.GA63529@regency.nsu.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030515152805.GA63529@regency.nsu.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org cc: src-committers@FreeBSD.ORG cc: Robert Watson cc: David O'Brien cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG cc: Ruslan Ermilov cc: Wilko Bulte cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/release/alpha drivers.conf X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 17:13:25 -0000 On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 10:28:05PM +0700, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 09:22:49AM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 08:39:30PM -0700, Jon Mini wrote: > > > Robert Watson [rwatson@FreeBSD.org] wrote : > > > > I think they'll be needed for i386 for a while yet, but when it comes to > > > > the newer 64-bit platforms, I tend to agree. I don't even know if you can > > > > buy a sparc64 box with a floppy drive at this point... It's hard for > > > > me to imagine anyone shipping an ia64 or amd64 machine with a floppy > > > > disk drive but without a bootable CDROM... > > > > > > The last time I used a boot floppy was over a year ago when I had > > > made some changes to the boot code and needed to make sure it still > > > worked for floppies. > > > > > > I can see the argument for supporting floppies on i386, but future > > > platforms don't require it. I think that these days it is harder > > > to find a floppy than a blank CDR, but then maybe that's because I > > > have an Apple laptop. > > > > > Not everyone has a CD-R/RW burner, you know that? I'm more > > in a mood to remove the support for modern drivers from BOOTMFS > > and driver floppies, assuming that if one has a modern enough > > hardware she also have a CD-ROM drive. Killing functionality > > like this would just decrease the number of potential FreeBSD > > installations (not to say users). > > I second this. Floppies are going to be in use for quite a long time > just yet. Lots of people prefer to install from FTP while booting from > floppies to save the disc for something more useful than bootstrap > platform for one-time installation. David refers to the FreeBSD/alpha port. If someone would care to verify their facts one would know that DEC never even considered floppy as a distribution medium. For exactly the reasons we see right now. We already had to axe support for several server models from the bootfloppys. PLEASE TAKE THIS ${DEITY}forsaken discussion onto -chat, this is of no use here. Wilko -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte