From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 12 14:59:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from cimlogic.com.au (cimlog.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.51.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 728BD1524C; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 14:59:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.1) id IAA70195; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 08:03:32 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jb) From: John Birrell Message-Id: <199907122203.IAA70195@cimlogic.com.au> Subject: Re: Using float emulator on a system with FPU? In-Reply-To: from Alex Zepeda at "Jul 12, 1999 01:44:18 pm" To: garbanzo@hooked.net (Alex Zepeda) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 08:03:32 +1000 (EST) Cc: green@FreeBSD.ORG (Brian F. Feldman), wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman), cracauer@cons.org (Martin Cracauer), freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alex Zepeda wrote: > On Mon, 12 Jul 1999, Brian F. Feldman wrote: > > > Why shouldn't we? Noone uses machines without FPUs anymore. What > > non-ancient CPU doesn't have an FPU? And we're talking about the i386 > > family here... Nonsense. Read this: > I've noticed recently, more and more, Linux is moving into the embedded > market quite nicely, and being used on smaller and smaller systems. > FreeBSD OTOH has been focusing (albeit not too successfully) on the higher > end market. That's a matter of perspective. Remember that people can base a product on FreeBSD without being forced to give away their value-added sources. I have a solar powered i386 board here that consumes just 2W. It runs FreeBSD. There is a tiny bit of custom code to initialise the board and boot the kernel out of flash, but the kernel is standard FreeBSD. > With my recent addition of an 040 powered Mac that I plan to put NetBSD > on, this really irks me. I'd love to put some (read: a significant) > amount of time getting FreeBSD up and running on this, but there seems to > be a lot of resistance to using FreeBSD on smaller/older machines. It > almost seems like the requirement is Pentium III, Alpha or bust. I don't think that is true. You are commenting on what other people have chosen to put their time into. The only resistance I see is people actually doing the work. To get in-principle approval before doing a substantial amount of work, ask core@FreeBSD.org. My bet is they won't object. -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message