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Date:      Tue, 23 Oct 2001 17:47:35 -0600
From:      Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
To:        Doug Barton <DougB@DougBarton.net>, yvan <niooi@cybercable.fr>
Cc:        freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Religion: islam is not what you think... Look at yourself first.
Message-ID:  <4.3.2.7.2.20011023174335.04395b50@localhost>
In-Reply-To: <3BD5B60C.849FE82D@DougBarton.net>
References:  <4.3.2.7.2.20010924170815.0180aee8@threespace.com> <20010925001027.A750@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20011003210717.0442cb20@localhost> <20011004132949.D16297@lpt.ens.fr> <20011019154414.A43110@moondog.org> <3BD1CCC8.6923E04F@mindspring.com> <002301c15bb5$281a6070$b227c6d4@C>

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At 12:25 PM 10/23/2001, Doug Barton wrote:

>        I haven't seen anyone claim that. All human civilizations, past and
>present, have committed atrocities, frequently in the name of some
>religion or another. Those religions shouldn't be judged by the actions
>of people who commit horrible crimes ostensibly in their name.

I disagree. Religions that explicitly command their followers to 
commit horrible crimes absolutely should -- in fact, MUST -- be 
condemned. If they are not, any killer can claim that he or she 
is exempt from fundamental human ethical and moral codes due to his 
or her religion.

To cite one example: Suppose that I declared myself to be a Thuggee.
Would I then be justified in committing ritual murder because it was
required by my religion?

--Brett Glass



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