From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Fri Jan 18 18:33:11 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1388F14A7460; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 18:33:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from smtp-out-so.shaw.ca (smtp-out-so.shaw.ca [64.59.136.138]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 563EC6D430; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 18:33:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from spqr.komquats.com ([70.67.125.17]) by shaw.ca with ESMTPA id kYwugSKt1nBo4kYwvgc8Ls; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 11:33:02 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=J8fUEzvS c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=VFtTW3WuZNDh6VkGe7fA3g==:117 a=VFtTW3WuZNDh6VkGe7fA3g==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=3JhidrIBZZsA:10 a=H0GPC0OhAAAA:8 a=YxBL1-UpAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=XzW2ZnVlJkLzrLaYYeEA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=KczGKrPSgCPlefTG41c3:22 a=Ia-lj3WSrqcvXOmTRaiG:22 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 Received: from android-68f84e02b5988183.esitwifi.local (S0106788a207e2972.gv.shawcable.net [70.66.154.233]) by spqr.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2957C437; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 10:33:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 10:32:36 -0800 User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <5C41EC89.9000900@grosbein.net> References: <201901181254.x0ICsbBb076360@slippy.cwsent.com> <5C41EC89.9000900@grosbein.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: svn commit: r343118 - in head/usr.sbin: . trim To: Eugene Grosbein CC: Maxim Sobolev , "Conrad E. Meyer" , src-committers , svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org From: Cy Schubert Message-ID: X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfHdsYnCRnezpvRWyeNPNC1C4JzR3+w3+6lnnxw80noyzJ4J28lWEm22KWTCdyNHhF5d67WK16bukzSgje4g2u452KYbN76+8hBtB6mCmamnIz097wlae Bu2nGf9kFbGPryzoB8Jq0zHLqdTb8Opm4glsSUwbCYWHza6wxbw83jLhk0ofzIjoztgcPEXX3ss+rCeNGDO+LVUL2W5xEiayujUthkmmJiSxVt9wb6LDgTBW K5fs++1fF9yGjdI8TSix0VuWT9R5w9sv6VM7OEV8pwiwF+3EfaZrmHowf3eP/ZGOLlFJlxG5SKzb6MPTJRpRHDfYckRuA7lAcNu+pMF0Aky18Oq88g8o8k7G TTGdX4uj X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 563EC6D430 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.97 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.967,0] X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 18:33:11 -0000 On January 18, 2019 7:11:05 AM PST, Eugene Grosbein = wrote: >On 18=2E01=2E2019 19:54, Cy Schubert wrote: > >> In message <81bb343b-ad8a-371d-d94f-f72c8dbce754@grosbein=2Enet>, >Eugene=20 >> Grosbein >> writes: >>> 18=2E01=2E2019 5:25, Maxim Sobolev wrote: >>> >>>> Using usr=2Esbin/trim as an example=2E=20 >>> >>> We still lack a command usable at installation stage (escape to >shell) to tri >>> m a device or partition >>> dedicated to ZFS Cache/ZFS Intention Log/zvol any other use when >ports/packag >>> es are not yet available=2E >>=20 >> OK, I will put a review together for dd=2E >>=20 >> Do you realize that what you just said? Your statement is >inconsistent=20 >> with where trim is installed? Then it should have been installed in=20 >> /sbin not where you put it=2E I don't want to start yet another >bikeshed=20 >> arguing the merits of this or that -- I'm intentionally being vague=20 >> here because I really don't want to stat a different bikeshed thread=2E > >> But suffice it to say, dd is the place for it because it lives in >/bin=20 >> and dd is already included in /rescue=2E > >Modern FreeBSD installation media have usr/bin and usr/sbin ready for >shell session >as they contain live system=2E I'm not against dd conv=3Dtrim but it has >different usage pattern >and it is not easy replacement for trim(8)=2E What do you not understand? We do not want it in base without a proper rev= iew=2E This second attempt at commit without a proper review is IMO disresp= ectful=2E Remove it now and submit a proper review=2E --=20 Pardon the typos and autocorrect, small keyboard in use=2E Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: http://www=2EFreeBSD=2Eorg The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few=2E