From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Thu Aug 8 18:32:55 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 592E2AE6AE for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2019 18:32:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ot1-f44.google.com (mail-ot1-f44.google.com [209.85.210.44]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 464H6t3p9vz4h3G; Thu, 8 Aug 2019 18:32:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ot1-f44.google.com with SMTP id b7so72315369otl.11; Thu, 08 Aug 2019 11:32:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=xyjAxLXISNKb2XcMC+CRR+rSv5IaEyP+JVLHOFL5XB0=; b=oygR7CHo2Rk396FoP4yrIN3kbXJDHuhQxvnVZWnqFeDcQv+SuWK59Sd2XeFbkO2uJJ fCoHVZpRWlG9WS4vLEXJ8AhIo7Xyk+jSSD1A5zIq4svGrcGnma7pcSt6gNav5oUJJiRw wohh6lUNgGk5Ox0/3ch7FX3qppUXCAVc8G0eEj1HtMz63StS0FZdELvcYJsqP91hj0ww +MDP+ZPOkw4bk99xbCZ7BltEQ+zsUpXGqQtxm6/vnT1GMXJ6i9lyNGwg67tbEhERLqRE HR4Xy1JE4FjeNzInlclqhBSSM7KO5BGn0rYOhDrzMdFU8fiHNje4BR6mo4j9JSKYmZRh D08A== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWvfJvtGDEPd658oo2F0AhxQPJp0Ek+wUq3JXRD/b4MZrCyPYk8 VrjOPWhkIulhYw8wOn+PyiFRuI6kV1DMIfyb/sxlhQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyuaGqAZHdxzCzXdZiAKyY/104z5XiZKkVlgDjOlnVx0CaYSB10vj89ESx0q9IkEa/lpbQHz6hcR4Oz6JIgER4= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:7e07:: with SMTP id i7mr7114385iom.254.1565289173328; Thu, 08 Aug 2019 11:32:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9c03a13c-8eed-06cb-bdef-faa1de8ea272@FreeBSD.org> <201908080247.x782lL31090500@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> In-Reply-To: <201908080247.x782lL31090500@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> From: Ed Maste Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2019 00:36:03 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r350550 - head/share/mk To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: John Baldwin , "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" , tech-lists Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 464H6t3p9vz4h3G X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of carpeddiem@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.44 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=carpeddiem@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.25 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17:c]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.987,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[44.210.85.209.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(-1.26)[ip: (-0.46), ipnet: 209.85.128.0/17(-3.38), asn: 15169(-2.43), country: US(-0.05)]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[emaste@freebsd.org,carpeddiem@gmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[emaste@freebsd.org,carpeddiem@gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2019 18:32:55 -0000 On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 at 22:47, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > Again, I think if we split this into kernel/userland we can > have it kernel off, userland on in head and I think that > takes care of everyones complaint about wanting it turned off > in head, and keeps the state that has those of us wanting it > turned on in head. There's not really anything to split - the knob affects the kernel and loader build, nothing else in userland.