From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 27 21:08:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3380316A403 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 21:08:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0393343D49 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 21:08:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.171.127.191] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1FZDj4-0002p8-Jp for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:08:38 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: <20060427165206.6256f5fb.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> References: <33BF4116-4A55-4B03-8791-37B4B8ACEB52@antsclimbtree.com> <12AF2FD6-1149-4012-951A-84F55BB1A6F9@wisc.edu> <20060427165206.6256f5fb.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <1B513999-3C3C-4B48-A8E7-62A0914BFC3B@shire.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:08:37 -0600 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.171.127.191 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: Subject: Re: Intel Macs and FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 21:08:41 -0000 On Apr 27, 2006, at 2:52 PM, Bill Moran wrote: > On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:47:37 -0500 > James Riendeau wrote: > >> Why? Mac OS X has a complete unix freebsd-like core called darwin >> ( http://www.darwin.org ). There's no reason to install freebsd on >> it. Just install Mac Developer Tools (included in the Applications >> folder), compile your favorite progs and go. > > Have you actually tried this? Installing ports from FreeBSD is about > 50x easier than getting software compiled/installed on a Mac. I've > been working with the Macs here at the office for a few weeks, and > I've > come to realize just how wonderfully well-maintained FreeBSD's ports > are! > > I'd take FreeBSD over MacOS any day. Perhaps it will get better over > time, but I'm not impressed with it right now. Depends what you are trying to do but there are two "ports" systems for Mac OS X which make it about (they say) as easy as the FreeBSD ports system. One is called "fink" and the other something like "darwin-ports". Also, many popular packages now exist in precompiled app form or with installer packages. I use FreeBSD on my servers, except for one Mac based server, and prefer it for my servers. However, for a home based server, I would probably leave the Mac OS X on there. There are all sorts of media advantages and you can easily get the home-server type stuff running and it is supported. In fact, my home-based office also runs off a different Mac OS X server with Mac OS X (and a windows box or two) clients. Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net