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Date:      Sat, 11 Apr 2015 19:48:14 +0000
From:      bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org
To:        freebsd-ports-bugs@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   [Bug 199333] graphics/pdf2svg UNBREAK - add MASTER_SITES
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--- Comment #13 from John Marino <marino@FreeBSD.org> ---
> Speaking for *this* port. I had looked for *quite* some time for a port
> that did *exactly* what this port did. I don't know if that constitutes/
> defines "obscure". But I can't tell you how happy I was to have discovered
> this port.

I already said this port was an exception, that it was "interesting".  I saved
it on my own so obviously I think it's useful.  I found this PR because I was
saving the PR.


> If you really want a port to die. IMHO it might be more effective to
> issue an EOL/DEPRECIATION  warning:
> Heads up, this port is slated for removal on XXXX-XX-XX because it
> doesn't appear to be of any significant value to anyone.


Almost every port I'm talking about had deprecation warnings.  That never
stopped anyone before.  We don't need to make funny deprecation messages.


> You could then easily determine it's *actual* value based on the
> response to the message.

How?  Talking historically, you were the only one that responded to the
message, but it was enough to block the removal.  (I'm still bitter about that
gnats port)


> I don't know how you effectively determine that a port must die,

Look at the ports history.  If it has not had a maintainer in years, and the
only commits to it are infrastructure changes and it's several releases behind,
that's generally a port that people want to do.  Especially if the previous
maintainer was reset or just quit.  The logs give a good idea of how many PRs
there were and how much interest it had in it's history.  It's pretty obvious
when nobody has interest.


> how you have determined (exactly) how many ports I am capable of
(effectively) maintaining. 

well, pretty much the same as anyone else.  50?  But my point was more --
you've actually said you wanted to continue development on certain ports so I'd
lower the number.  At some number of ports, people drop behind on the release
updates, handing PRs, etc.  There is a ceiling.  I'm worried about anyone with
over 100 because any given day they can send in a request to drop all their
ports.  

> But I can assure you, I give reasonable consideration to those ports I
> *choose* to maintain. 

That might indeed be the case, but I would be lying if I said I understand
every selection you've made.  And I've successfully talked you out of some of
them!

Anyway, in this case I thought the request was quite aggressive.  The port had
only been broken for a couple of days and it had an active maintainer that
hadn't indicated he was looking to give it up.  And it was quite easy to find
the new location by going to home page, it only took about 20 seconds.  Anyway,
we've talked poor martin's ear off by now...

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