From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Sep 25 00:46:18 1995 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id AAA04636 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 00:46:18 -0700 Received: from relay.philips.nl (ns.philips.nl [130.144.65.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA04631 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 00:46:15 -0700 Received: (from smap@localhost) by relay.philips.nl (8.6.9/8.6.9-950414) id IAA06834 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 08:45:40 +0100 Received: from unknown(130.144.198.1) by relay.philips.nl via smap (V1.3+ESMTP) with SMTP id sma006816; Mon Sep 25 08:44:51 1995 Received: from spooky.lss.cp.philips.com by cnps.lss.cp.philips.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0sx8Dv-0001aFC; Mon, 25 Sep 95 08:45 MET Received: by spooky.lss.cp.philips.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sx8DY-000HneC; Mon, 25 Sep 95 08:44 MET Message-Id: From: guido@spooky.lss.cp.philips.com (Guido van Rooij) Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: ComOS 3.1.4 released for PortMaster (fwd) To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 08:44:48 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: Guido.vanRooij@nl.cis.philips.com (Guido van Rooij) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2507 Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk This came up in a discussion about what OS'es to support on the Livingstone PM mailing list. -Guido Elya Kurktchi wrote: > From livingston.com!owner-portmaster-users Sun Sep 24 15:03:33 1995 > Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 06:53:12 -0700 > From: Elya Kurktchi > Message-Id: <199509241353.GAA26313@inet1.inetworld.net> > To: portmaster-users@livingston.com > Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: ComOS 3.1.4 released for PortMaster > Sender: owner-portmaster-users@livingston.com > Precedence: bulk > Reply-To: Elya Kurktchi > > > At 12:54 AM 9/24/95 -0700, Ron Pinz wrote: > >>Once upon a time Chris B. Wilson, VectorNet shaped the electrons to say... > >>>Give them the hint and set the password to "PortItToBSDAlready!" :) > >> > > > >For those of you not capable of running PMConsole today, INVEST IN A REAL > >OS! It is youring whining, bitching, and complaining detracting from the > >usefulness of this mailing list. > > Well, for some reason a $2K pentium running freebsd with 64MB of RAM outperforms > a $35K Sparc20/71 with 512MB of RAM and best of all, you get to run real bsd > unix rather than solaris. Isn't that shocking? That means that I can spend > $33K on my customers, buying more modems and lines and offering more people > a job then wasting it on a machine that may have a supported os, but stinks > when it comes to doing the real job. I hate PC's personally, but after working > with crays and bleeding-edge desktop workstations, there seems to be some use > to them. SGI is a great platform and it has an unsupported OS, but it can > waste a SUN anytime, and in the real world case, so can a pentium running unix. > > >>People wanted PMconsole for Linux - that is in beta. > > > >I would be curious to know the installed base of PM equipment, where the > >customers do not have a supported OS available. Livinston has been > >supporting the majority of the commercial OS' (non-intel based) for years! > > Quite a bit now. Again why waste so much money when an intel based machine > can do the job. Note for an ISP, we want the job done with as little money > as possible so that we can make a profit, not waste it all on equipment. > > Elya > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > Elya S. Kurktchi Simply Internet > Vice President-Systems Admin 7841 Balboa Avenue, Suite 101 > elya@inetworld.net San Diego, CA 92111 > ------------------------------------------------------------- > >