From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 22 19:28:45 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7BEFBA212 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 19:28:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd2b.google.com (mail-io1-xd2b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 192BB8745C for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 19:28:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-xd2b.google.com with SMTP id z3so76571141iog.0 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 12:28:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=fvSE9EeJUET7sQLjAQE8hQmxAKyY2hM9sw6BtvhWBf0=; b=e7fM6lqedIOHjgspByVwdFfuPaNKVu31y39JWPY50tkrEcuzapI9is+6G164nyCNme upnXCLJpQEwaC+ZlkI8+Lg8GIcMLGGS9eBntIzDWHrVoQt6PzlQPkKosrY8Qs9wPJ/ST RU4UdQ/NyT7csprR1ptHAVP1Aipbp/oqP4ry8MneT1tk9aFq6fOuSN/SN3gxMFHzwb9U AizEfLVAfyPusFx2PouXESFFeuRdXKO4+uXdFD2BwhWBh7YBE50camFbChOP4OMYdWqm tJ2Y1vSRLc7h3q5/551B8+N9hU3gVTDTPRpNG+j7+lwHCiS0uN9QKw3I3bN9QxUq2h/+ RlwA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=fvSE9EeJUET7sQLjAQE8hQmxAKyY2hM9sw6BtvhWBf0=; b=e/9tChfGg5skxBRgLUJUyB4l/14DvGKRGKOUpqmAjKdnyKq7KUM30Q9FakQXM/qHSx 7e+I0/dskUK7PWRWzaCY5ocvYf95p7j0xcRh3rV4OzjZxtINDi6FpHwybKImMkWsvfe2 UyiBu6BSHhlV3kbLpTb/0TRiVBWukUQ2sP378xmC+7vyrPkvTcN2dKJ6eMPwXepKOBHB 22uuJ+MV6A71AqOPLM828dVhkq1u6b4taZMezmmRcmSpkRwkmdhp0le7iK5NXfvgn6bR nKco3zPri1tMhMZM5IYfP+bDqIRv+m+2qJEitjYaWOZA/7Gr1wb2SLUDKMA28iwnQkzG vAZA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUadqm8WikUXoFCZUeSGNpO2L9XzSHp3Ev/wn4LL1/SPhPnm9Hn MV3NYpRDhD63U/CuiHwXWmNZJGdC1W4jeodse6Y= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwBJdqJKdLwTwmPwNfXEFBop3gE/emL/XxOPd0nR7kDmA6CtwMeyLpTf4n94rtCr9rZt6HKMzaSh06o+HNb22A= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:b804:: with SMTP id i4mr63912405iof.119.1563823724527; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 12:28:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5ceb24c1-66ce-2603-5eed-78283d9676b7@holgerdanske.com> <23861.63968.885139.970960@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: From: Aryeh Friedman Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 15:28:33 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Best hardware for a replacement desktop? To: Robert Huff Cc: David Christensen , FreeBSD Mailing List X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 192BB8745C X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=e7fM6lqe; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of aryehfriedman@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2b as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=aryehfriedman@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.74 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.88)[-0.882,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE(-2.84)[ip: (-8.63), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-3.11), asn: 15169(-2.43), country: US(-0.05)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[b.2.d.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 19:28:45 -0000 On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 2:59 PM Aryeh Friedman wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 2:01 PM Robert Huff wrote: > >> >> Aryeh Friedman writes: >> >> > > You need an uninterruptible power supply (UPS): >> > > >> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uninterruptible_power_supply >> > >> > Already on my shopping list but half the problem is the machine is >> > a name HP and looking at the specs I have likely put more demand on >> > the power supply then I can supply if there any drop in voltage. >> >> I'd be interested to hear how you do this ... but assuming it's >> true your solution has two parts: >> >> 1) the UPS to deal with the "power hiccups". Before you buy, >> check ports/sysutils to see what models are covered by available >> software. >> > > Neither of the two other systems on the same power strip that where custom > build (not name brand) and being careful to not overload the internal > supply went down even once > > >> 2) a more vigorous internal power supply. I have no idea if it's >> even possible to upgrade HP products short of having HP do it (and >> maybe not even then). >> > > This is one of the primary reasons for wanting to upgrade the entire > system.... HP refuses to support upgrades and uses non-standard physical > dimensions... HP Pavilion 7 is not upgradable and I have already done all > the tweaks I can do (and thus overloaded the power supply in all likely > hood)... most notably I added 3 SATA drives in it beyond the one it came > with (including a SSD), I increased the RAM from 8 GB to 24 GB (works fine > despite the stated max being 16 [dmidecode says the max is 128 GB though]), > added a mid range nvidia card to it (GeForce GT 710). So all in all I > suspect I have severly overtaxed the power supply which is 300W. > >> >> >> Respectfully, >> >> >> Robert Huff >> >> > > -- > Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org > -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org