From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 6 18:56:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D20711065673; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 18:56:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@freebsd.org) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C95338FC13; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 18:56:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from odyssey.starpoint.kiev.ua (alpha-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.101]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id UAA14100; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 20:56:33 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from avg@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <4CFD31E0.8070107@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 20:56:32 +0200 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101029 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jung-uk Kim References: <4CF92852.20705@freebsd.org> <201012061243.08577.jkim@FreeBSD.org> <4CFD2441.5090408@freebsd.org> <201012061334.22475.jkim@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <201012061334.22475.jkim@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: non-invariant tsc and cputicker X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 18:56:35 -0000 on 06/12/2010 20:34 Jung-uk Kim said the following: > I understand that. However, it is not clear to me why you want to > pessimize performance of old hardware. If you can convince me old > hardware with slow timecounter hardware (e.g., i8254) does not hurt > too much, maybe it's okay. Overlooked this point - TSC can be very well used as a timecounter. And in that case non-invariant TSC would veto P-state changes, which is the proper thing to do, IMO. -- Andriy Gapon