From nobody Thu Dec 22 16:14:50 2022 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4NdFl72w2Kz1G5gn for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2022 16:14:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [147.160.157.40]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "A1-48603", Issuer "A1-48603" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4NdFl56xN8z3mW5 for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2022 16:14:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=fail (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of doug@safeport.com does not designate 147.160.157.40 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=doug@safeport.com; dmarc=none Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 2BMGEpCp096923 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2022 16:14:51 GMT (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) with ESMTP id 2BMGEohJ096920 for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2022 16:14:51 GMT (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: doug owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2022 16:14:50 +0000 (UTC) From: doug Reply-To: doug@safeport.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: running FreeBSD on an iMac - solved - well sorta In-Reply-To: <6dacac24-722b-3148-4fe-4f925ad32840@safeport.com> Message-ID: References: <2193562.sMrx5ctUpN@curlew> <6dacac24-722b-3148-4fe-4f925ad32840@safeport.com> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.10 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_SPF_FAIL(1.00)[-all]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.996]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[safeport.com]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[doug@safeport.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6405, ipnet:147.160.157.0/24, country:US]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4NdFl56xN8z3mW5 X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Wed, 21 Dec 2022, doug@safeport.com wrote: > > > On Tue, 20 Dec 2022, Doug Denault wrote: > >> On Tue, 20 Dec 2022, Mike Clarke wrote: >> >>> On Tuesday, 20 December 2022 16:37:16 GMT Doug Denault wrote: >>> >>> > freebsd-update will not attempt 9.2 --> 12.3. Any way to get 10.x or >>> 11.x >>> >>> > to see if that will update? Google has not, so far, turned up any 10 or >>> 11 >>> >>> > CDs in the wild. >>> >>> http://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/ISO-IMAGES/ >> >> Thank you > > I really appreciated the feed back. It turned out what I needed was a 700MB > cd. That does not match the media that the 9.2 image was written on but using > cdrecord from cdrtools version 2022.09.18 (the current version from pkg) > worked fine using the bootonly image. Now onto Xorg. Should be easy right :) I did install 12.3, Xorg (zero issues), xfce and firefox. All that works perfectly except cut and paste. It turns out there is a community of people doing what I am trying to do. These are great systems even if Apple will no longer update them. There is even a FreeBSD wiki. It turns out that there seems to be a way to install FreeBSD as the native OS without completely wiping the disk as I did. I am not sure why cut and paste seems to depend on the BIOS which is really gone. The Apple method of booting to the BIOS does not work so I assume some part of it (the BIOS) are physically on the hard drive. I have tried the native xfce clipboard app and an X11 based app getting neither to work. Again this is me begging for ideas. My neighbor found his installation CD so I can put OS/X back and do this the "right" to see what happens. But if there is a way to cut and paste I have no need to do this.