From owner-svn-src-head@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 7 16:53:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 735E81E7; Sat, 7 Sep 2013 16:53:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mr.kodiak@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x22a.google.com (mail-ie0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 26D052A06; Sat, 7 Sep 2013 16:53:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f170.google.com with SMTP id 17so535692iea.1 for ; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 09:53:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=5m+EG8xU+CTQfdzwVCOfrlJfocp82byMPh3ITfCzlbk=; b=VddXz859TUX5J9LfXRren9YY30A2Y+O9/KM1gz2+5mrQy7kiZu7YQbKJBd0VaQhwnh QdOhlRCFJItrJNeHgmLJc6DYKuuIChZGbkLD0ZdArTt1pOCOq8jsMjJP0wiTCtHGQbOP jJ6E+O1xWpXNna20ZFjkP6atf3RsXBOqRp4UwGP7JySClsHAvoksIjMAgax2kQkcZn5G vlDZ7fwibfZFPdvDNmm/KQrYMwbt3ThTjV+GlY0yExB81NPjuUywO6QmMlngD1FNw6pX SLHovmW1+gGM6HfS+JwRdwc5oixTVP2TVqaa2ZuChE5hTOQv+l42++8jU3yRV3/SOUvL xDOg== X-Received: by 10.50.62.211 with SMTP id a19mr2675746igs.18.1378572792605; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 09:53:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: mr.kodiak@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.6.136 with HTTP; Sat, 7 Sep 2013 09:52:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20130907081743.GB95723@zxy.spb.ru> References: <201309062024.r86KOMqm059838@svn.freebsd.org> <20130907081743.GB95723@zxy.spb.ru> From: Bryan Venteicher Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 11:52:42 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: asAUZhcOpuOx_-w3uXDDD5dQsiQ Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r255323 - in head/sys: amd64/conf i386/conf To: Slawa Olhovchenkov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: svn-src-head@freebsd.org, Bryan Venteicher , svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2013 16:53:13 -0000 On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 3:17 AM, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > On Fri, Sep 06, 2013 at 03:46:11PM -0500, Bryan Venteicher wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Bryan Venteicher > wrote: > > > > > Author: bryanv > > > Date: Fri Sep 6 20:24:21 2013 > > > New Revision: 255323 > > > URL: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/255323 > > > > > > Log: > > > Add vmx device to the i386 and amd64 NOTES files > > > > > > > > FWIW - I'm on the fence about adding vmx to GENERIC for 10.0. IIRC, > > VMware's vmxnet3 driver returns BUS_PROBE_VENDOR so the two drivers > should > > coexist. This is assuming VMware updates the driver for 10 ... which I'm > > guessing isn't likely and was a large reason I added this driver in the > > first place. > > Why we don't switch (in 10.0) to minimal GENERIC and all driver loaded > as modules (/boot/loader.conf)? This is reduce memory (by easy unloading > unneed > drivers/modules), space (by reducing GENERIC+symbols size about 100M), > space on install media too (100M + compressed 100M), build time (not > need to build some modules twice) and add ability to easy > update/bugfix modules w/o reboot. > > After last updates to bootloader loading many modules enought fast. > I already switched (for me) to this setup and it's fine for me. > The holy grail would be for the loader to automatically detect and load what is needed/supported, but this has been talked and beaten to death in the past.