From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Mar 10 15:22:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from scallop.baynetworks.com (ns5.baynetworks.com [194.133.90.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B86114C23 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 15:21:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bwithrow@engeast.BayNetworks.COM) Received: from mailhost.BayNetworks.COM (occhio.BayNetworks.COM [194.133.90.100]) by scallop.baynetworks.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA14604; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 00:20:18 +0100 (MET) Received: from pobox.engeast.BayNetworks.COM (pobox.engeast.baynetworks.com [192.32.61.6]) by mailhost.BayNetworks.COM (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA01939; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 00:18:20 +0100 (MET) Received: from tuva.engeast.baynetworks.com (tuva [192.32.68.38]) by pobox.engeast.BayNetworks.COM (SMI-8.6/BNET-97/04/24-S) with ESMTP id SAA25383; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 18:17:26 -0500 for Received: from tuva.engeast.baynetworks.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tuva.engeast.baynetworks.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA25894; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 18:15:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bwithrow@tuva.engeast.baynetworks.com) Message-Id: <199903102315.SAA25894@tuva.engeast.baynetworks.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: Victor Salaman , "'Scott Mitchell'" , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Colin Eric Johnson , Mike Smith , David Kulp , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: compatibility list In-Reply-To: Message from Poul-Henning Kamp of "Wed, 10 Mar 1999 20:54:09 +0100." <32961.921095649@critter.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 18:15:14 -0500 From: Robert Withrow Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I know that everyone on the core team would be *ecstatic* if good PCCard support would show up from contributors. I've looked at the problems on my own laptop and there are some that I could fix, but it seems like there is a major lack of architectural guidance preventing people like me offering fixes. What I mean by this is possibly best illustrated by example: My system has two cardbus controllers, and the docking module has one PCcard controller. The probe code *sees* these, but it has a lot of hard-coded assumptions that are obviously wrong preventing me from using the PCcard controller in the docking module. Still, lacking some architectural guidance, any change I make would be just as wrong, I think. Likewise, I don't remember if it was Mike or Nate, but someone who knows thinks the current FBSD PCCard design is superior to that in PAO, and I think I agree, but without a "leader" how can we flesh this out and make it work as well as PAO does now? Isn't a problem that there is no "connected" person calling the "architectural" shots? Certainly there isn't any documentation we can reference that I've found, on the FBSD pccard architecture. -- Robert Withrow -- (+1 978 916 8256) BWithrow@BayNetworks.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message