From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 23 16:54:20 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C5F5133DD8F for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2018 16:54:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6885283E36 for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2018 16:54:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from point.uchicago.edu (point.uchicago.edu [128.135.52.6]) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5A87718064 for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2018 10:54:13 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: apple : mac pro : full hardware supported? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: <66231e5d-6c0c-0ce6-6b05-325b15d99784@kicp.uchicago.edu> Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2018 10:54:13 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 6885283E36 X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dmarc=fail reason="" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.46 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.25)[0.247,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.67)[0.666,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[kicp.uchicago.edu]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.48)[0.475,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[70.20.135.128.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.08)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2018 16:54:20 -0000 On 12/23/18 6:54 AM, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > is the newer generation of apple hardware, especially the mac pro, well > supported by freebsd? > my thinkpad had some twisted support for it's hardware, specifically > lacked Wifi support and occasionally shutdown or rebooted on it's own > and hence had to be sold back to the hardware vendor. since I am in the > no-machine state right now, wondered if a monolithic ally well-built > hardware like the mac pro be worth it. Dell's XPS line is similarly built - mechanically that is. I opened one of them, and I like what I've seen inside. I would say, with Dell XPS (specifically the one that ships with Linux) you will have much less chance of surprises than yo may with Macintosh. Still, do your own research on specific hardware support under FrrBSD. Just to mention two things macbook pro: all hardware is controlled trough software (read about SMC) latest macbook pro have that bar above keyboard; that one is a part of second system - iOS - that runs on its own CPU (arm), and MacOS and iOS should be of coherent versions, I've seen trouble when they become not. All in all, I for one am staying away from Lenovo since the moment they shipped laptops with malware preinstalled (do your own search about that scandal). I was watching them for a couple of years after Chinese company Lenovo bought IBM laptop line, and as they seemed to be OK and continuing IBM's tradition, I started recommending them to my users, and just at that moment they shipped laptops with malware preinstalled. Never ever since I will recommend Lenovo to anyone, not to say get one for myself. I hope, this helps. Valeri > thanks. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++