From owner-freebsd-jail@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 16:12:13 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F82056A for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2015 16:12:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from frv189.fwdcdn.com (frv189.fwdcdn.com [212.42.77.189]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0C80B924 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2015 16:12:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.10.1.28] (helo=frv196.fwdcdn.com) by frv189.fwdcdn.com with esmtp ID 1YGVDn-0005mm-Sq for freebsd-jail@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2015 18:12:03 +0200 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ukr.net; s=ffe; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Cc:To:Subject:From:Date; bh=20X/DoQ/VljByfsGjmywHGOhAIBiAbz7O8r3mE0x/WE=; b=mbp1KaW6LV4V3wPY9O9tgEaSXGOt4bRl+8TgVpZ5Z6sdj3E0xbGaWKda2wwDV+JHWO4Lx/zPxQXe2FQBMCeGTRHrTLidcAo0ah+HyikIA6+smKNZCNNaGi8dmAoiDUgCrdsHdQipcEGH38iabnl21GuIUUeORfU3NGmPAVI/zFc=; Received: from [10.10.10.34] (helo=frv34.fwdcdn.com) by frv196.fwdcdn.com with smtp ID 1YGVDg-000ABH-1n for freebsd-jail@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2015 18:11:56 +0200 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 18:11:55 +0200 From: wishmaster Subject: Re[2]: preferred jail management tool To: Warren Block X-Mailer: mail.ukr.net 5.0 Message-Id: <1422460591.608730864.q8oky1s8@frv34.fwdcdn.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20150127012347.GA4940@lonesome.com> <20150127141239.V77290@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <54C71BC9.5010103@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from artemrts@ukr.net by frv34.fwdcdn.com; Wed, 28 Jan 2015 18:11:55 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Content-Disposition: inline Cc: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion about FreeBSD jail\(8\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 16:12:13 -0000 --- Original message --- From: "Warren Block" Date: 28 January 2015, 17:48:05 > On Tue, 27 Jan 2015, Allan Jude wrote: > > > Ezjail still works perfectly fine. It is moderately actively maintained, > > it works very well with ZFS. The value of having a single basejail, > > rather than multiple is slightly diminished by the fact that we all have > > more disk space than we used to, and the fact that ZFS could clone a > > common dataset to save some space, but, when it comes time to upgrade > > the common basejail is useful. The process can be a bit awkward at > > times, but it generally works fine. > > The single basejail is ezjail's killer feature. Agreed, it's not so > much a matter of disk space as of making it possible to upgrade all the > jails at one pass. Really? This is not killer feature, this something "imperfection" (sorry, Dirk. Without insults). And I was forced to migrate to own solution when defined it. Basejail must has not only base system's configs as well as all installed software needed in jails. So, I have 5 jails and only one installation of nginx/php, one installation of MySQL and so on. Just update basejail's software and restart services in all others jails. -- Vitaly