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Date:      Sun, 15 Feb 2015 22:01:00 +0300
From:      Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>, Nikos Vassiliadis <nvass@gmx.com>, "src-committers@freebsd.org" <src-committers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r276747 - head/sys/netpfil/pf
Message-ID:  <20150215190100.GQ15484@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <CAG=rPVc2YLB-3ZyxDZTxDpkt6R8E_Sf1U%2BWWwKrFB2dxTXGENQ@mail.gmail.com>
References:  <201501060903.t06934qp081875@svn.freebsd.org> <20150122012709.GM15484@FreeBSD.org> <54C16715.6060701@gmx.com> <20150122222314.GO15484@FreeBSD.org> <CAG=rPVc2YLB-3ZyxDZTxDpkt6R8E_Sf1U%2BWWwKrFB2dxTXGENQ@mail.gmail.com>

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  Craig,

On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 07:35:53PM -0800, Craig Rodrigues wrote:
C> > On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 10:09:41PM +0100, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote:
C> > N> > Sorry guys, I backed this out due to broken kldunload of pf module,
C> > which
C> > N> > is critical when you are working with pf bugs.
C> > N>
C> > N> For sure. 100% understood.
C> > N>
C> > N> > I had to backout r276746 as well, since it has numerous build
C> > breakages,
C> > N> > that are addressed by later revisions.
C> > N> >
C> > N> > That's my fault that I don't review in time, and I will try to improve
C> > N> > the situation.
C> > N> >
C> > N> > Can you please replay r276746 again, addressing all the build problems
C> > N> > and send the patch to me? You can user reviews.freebsd.org if you
C> > want.
C> > N> >
C> > N> > I'd like to get this in, but in a better quality.
C> > N>
C> > N> I'd like to get involved again and help you fixing pf. Craig could you
C> > N> replay 276746?
C> 
C> I wish you could have fixed the pf unload problem without backing out
C> all these changes.  I took all these changes from your projects/pf branch,
C> which was starting to bitrot because it was not being sync'd with head.
C> 
C> I got confirmation from several people that the fixes as they were (after
C> the build break fixes),
C> actually fixed their issues with PF and VIMAGE, which have been pending for
C> several
C> years now with no visible progress made.
C> 
C> Most regular users of PF don't really kldunload it once it is used.
C> For development use, I've been testing inside bhyve VM's, which doesn't
C> solve the kldunload problem but allows testing and forward progress.
C> 
C> Why do you want me to replay 276746 and give you a patch?
C> 
C> Why don't you just do it yourself?

Because it is responsibility of the committer, who broke something, to
fix it, not mine.

Nevertheless, I tried to do that, and it took more than couple of hours, but
I failed to untangle all the problems that r276746 brought and proceeded with
checkout.

-- 
Totus tuus, Glebius.



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