From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 3 14:51:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 161A016A4B3 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:51:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pandora.cs.kun.nl (pandora.cs.kun.nl [131.174.33.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D9743FF2 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:51:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adridg@cs.kun.nl) Received: from odin.cs.kun.nl by pandora.cs.kun.nl id h93Lp9dK016720 (8.12.10/3.58); Fri, 3 Oct 2003 23:51:09 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 23:51:09 +0200 (MEST) From: Adriaan de Groot To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20031003201032.45A962A900@canning.wemm.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: amd64 as an X desktop? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: adridg@cs.kun.nl List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 21:51:12 -0000 Hi Peter, Thanks for the informative post. So amd64 is headed for tier-1 status? Have you actually tried running GNOME / KDE on it? THose are pretty stressful and complicated things, that's why ia64 started trying to get them to work. On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Peter Wemm wrote: > > thinking of getting an amd64 box to play with, to perhaps sort out some of > > the other 32-bit x86 linux-centric stuff in KDE. However, I'm a KDE guy, > > not a kernel, X, or gdb guy, so I need to have that basis stable before I > > can get anything done. > > issue. Having said that, it does work pretty well. I'm in the process of > switching my primary desktop boxes (home and work) to amd64 machines. > I just haven't quite gotten around to moving the files over yet. David > O'Brien had trouble with an nvidia card I believe. OK, my primary goal is to find some combination of hardware that would Just Work, based partly on what I can scrounge out of my current machines. I would be mostly interested in what gcc 3.3 does with C++ code on the amd64, and in hunting down endian/sizeness bugs in KDE. > If you want to pick up a machine, I've booted FreeBSD on both the asus SK8N > and gigabyte K8N Pro (both nvidia nforce3 based). I have not tried the > asus K8V or whatever it is called (via K8T800 chipset based). I've been meaning > to try out a via based system to make sure there are no suprises. Aye, and if I build two, you'll be glad to "test" one. Tella ya what, I'll shell out a month's salary for just one box with a K8V, and let you know. Although, by the time the parts arrive here, you'll probably have one anyway. > No, we do not have a driver for the onboard nvidia ethernet on the nforce3, > but some of the boards I've seen have a realtek 8110 based gigabit ethernet > (no driver) or a 3com/marvell gigabit chip (I dont know what this chip is). This sounds like "there is no Gb LAN support at all anywhere". > The ATA driver doesn't recognize some of the SATA or RAID hardware on these > boards, but I've been able to use plain IDE drives no problem. OK, I guess that's a start. I can't tell whether the Promise 20378 RAID controller is supported from the FBSD x86 HW support page -- that'd provide 2 SATA ports already. And the LAN controller seems to be 3Com, that can hardly be a problem. -- Adriaan de Groot adridg@cs.kun.nl Kamer A6020 024-3652272 GPG Key Fingerprint 934E 31AA 80A7 723F 54F9 50ED 76AC EE01 FEA2 A3FE http://www.cs.kun.nl/~adridg/research/