From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG  Sun Aug 17 20:19:50 2003
Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG>
Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125])
	by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74FD637B401
	for <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>;
	Sun, 17 Aug 2003 20:19:50 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from praetor.linc-it.com (hardtime.linuxman.net [66.147.26.65])
	by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9480C43FA3
	for <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>;
	Sun, 17 Aug 2003 20:19:49 -0700 (PDT)
	(envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net)
Received: from mortis.over-yonder.net (adsl-19-135-74.jan.bellsouth.net
	[68.19.135.74])
	(using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits))
	(No client certificate requested)
	by praetor.linc-it.com (Postfix) with ESMTP
	id A74D1152A5; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 22:19:47 -0500 (CDT)
Received: by mortis.over-yonder.net (Postfix, from userid 100)
	id 9614520F03; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 22:19:45 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 22:19:45 -0500
From: "Matthew D. Fuller" <fullermd@over-yonder.net>
To: Bill Moran <wmoran@potentialtech.com>
Message-ID: <20030818031945.GB65803@over-yonder.net>
References: <20030817102318.69e094fc.aelfgar@aelfgar.com>
	<3F3FCFB2.3050900@potentialtech.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
In-Reply-To: <3F3FCFB2.3050900@potentialtech.com>
User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i-fullermd.1
X-Editor: vi
X-OS: FreeBSD <http://www.freebsd.org/>
cc: Mike Atamas <aelfgar@aelfgar.com>
cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Slow Boot
X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1
Precedence: list
List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current
	<freebsd-current.freebsd.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current>,
	<mailto:freebsd-current-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current>
List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-current-request@freebsd.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current>,
	<mailto:freebsd-current-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 03:19:50 -0000

On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 02:55:46PM -0400 I heard the voice of
Bill Moran, and lo! it spake thus:
> 
> My best guess is that the chipset responds slowly to probes, thus it
> takes a while to get the list of devices from it.  However, I've never
> looked into it any more than that.

I've always presumed it to be a question of timing out probes to the
drives; it only ever happens on IDE controllers with no devices attached
to 'em.  I habitually just disable the controller channels that are empty
(or, in the case of my SCSI systems, just yank ATA support altogether).


-- 
Matthew Fuller     (MF4839)   |  fullermd@over-yonder.net
Systems/Network Administrator |  http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/

"The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is because I
      haven't figured out how to light the middle yet"