From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 02:55:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6BE91065674; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 02:55:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (pancho.soaustin.net [76.74.250.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B49468FC16; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 02:55:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 0E2F756205; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 21:55:03 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 21:55:03 -0500 From: Mark Linimon To: Mark Andrews Message-ID: <20120605025502.GA23429@lonesome.com> References: <2421561.4aJcXPZZxh@x220.ovitrap.com> <4FCB38F2.4030505@ateamsystems.com> <3851080.JQJobqxLc8@x220.ovitrap.com> <4FCBCF49.1010206@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <4FCD23FE.20906@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20120605012425.4BE48213F3FF@drugs.dv.isc.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120605012425.4BE48213F3FF@drugs.dv.isc.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Chris Rees , "freebs @mail.isc.org>> Current FreeBSD" , Erich , "O. Hartmann" , Adam Strohl Subject: Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 02:55:04 -0000 > One doesn't have to live at the bleeding edge with ports if one > doesn't want to even when compiling. One can live a day, a week, > a month behind the bleeding edge and allow other to hit problems > and report them. To be pedantic, there's a lot of difference between reporting problems, and supplying fixes. Sometimes figuring out the fixes is beyond the capabilities of our maintainers, of course. People should feel free to ask for help on the mailing lists or forums in those cases. But our general problem won't be solved merely by tagging. There have to be people willing to test based only on whatever tree, or branch, or whatever, has been tagged. This is on reason why the tree at release time is _somewhat_ more stable: we are asking people to test, test, test. (The fact that we slow down the rate of major changes to the tree accounts for the rest.) mcl