From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 30 2:39:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ei.bzerk.org (ei.xs4all.nl [213.84.67.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AC4837B400 for ; Thu, 30 May 2002 02:39:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g4U9dNl3012120; Thu, 30 May 2002 11:39:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stable@ei.bzerk.org) Received: (from stable@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g4U9dNdv012119; Thu, 30 May 2002 11:39:23 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 11:39:23 +0200 From: Ruben To: Jens Rehsack Cc: mlane@gnc.co.uk, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Subscriptions Message-ID: <20020530113923.A12085@ei.bzerk.org> References: <1BB209A73E96D4118DA200508BF3AE41023AF83E@BRIAN> <3CF5DCED.1C54EE65@liwing.de> <20020530102246.C11238@ei.bzerk.org> <3CF5EB15.9CAE0E69@liwing.de> <20020530113007.A11793@ei.bzerk.org> <3CF5EFB5.E09B21DC@liwing.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3CF5EFB5.E09B21DC@liwing.de>; from rehsack@liwing.de on Thu, May 30, 2002 at 11:24:05AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 11:24:05AM +0200, Jens Rehsack typed: > > > Ruben wrote: > > > > On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 11:04:21AM +0200, Jens Rehsack typed: > > > > > > > > > Ruben wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 10:03:57AM +0200, Jens Rehsack typed: > > > > > Mat Lane wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I am the postmaster and I keep receiving e-mails from yourselves, I am > > > > > > guessing they were for people who have left our company now. Please could > > > > > > you stop sending any mailings to anyone at gnc.co.uk > > > > > > > > > > Read the bottom of the mail! > > > > > > > > It should not be the responsebility of the postmaster to unsubscribe > > > > users that left his company. If these accounts are disabled, an > > > > undeliverable message should go back to the list-owners, whose > > > > responsebility it is to remove these accounts from the list. > > > > > > This is only half the truth. I think, if the postmaster of a company / network > > > keeps mails of unexisting accounts instead of bounce them, he is responsible > > > for list subscriptions as it were his own mails. > > > > That's what I meant. I did say an undeliverable message should go back > > to the list. What I was trying to say is that IF the postmaster does his > > part of the job (make sure undeliverable messages get bounced) the list > > has to do its part of the job, which it obviously does. > > The message at the bottom of the mail is intended for the user, not the > > postmaster, that's what I was replying to. > > But read what he wrote: "I keep receiving e-mails from yourselves" > > He is responsible. But read what I wrote; I totally agree with you. I didn't say he was doing his part of the job, I said *IF*. > > > > > > > If he bounce them, then the auto-unsubscribe should react. > > > > > > Jens > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Mat Lane > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > L i W W W i Jens Rehsack > > > > > L W W W > > > > > L i W W W W i nnn gggg LiWing IT-Services > > > > > L i W W W W i n n g g > > > > > LLLL i W W i n n g g Friesenstraße 2 > > > > > gggg 06112 Halle > > > > > g > > > > > g g > > > > > Tel.: +49 - 3 45 - 5 17 05 91 ggg e-Mail: > > > > > Fax: +49 - 3 45 - 5 17 05 92 http://www.liwing.de/ > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > > L i W W W i Jens Rehsack > > > L W W W > > > L i W W W W i nnn gggg LiWing IT-Services > > > L i W W W W i n n g g > > > LLLL i W W i n n g g Friesenstraße 2 > > > gggg 06112 Halle > > > g > > > g g > > > Tel.: +49 - 3 45 - 5 17 05 91 ggg e-Mail: > > > Fax: +49 - 3 45 - 5 17 05 92 http://www.liwing.de/ > > -- > L i W W W i Jens Rehsack > L W W W > L i W W W W i nnn gggg LiWing IT-Services > L i W W W W i n n g g > LLLL i W W i n n g g Friesenstraße 2 > gggg 06112 Halle > g > g g > Tel.: +49 - 3 45 - 5 17 05 91 ggg e-Mail: > Fax: +49 - 3 45 - 5 17 05 92 http://www.liwing.de/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message